chess notation? Can anyone help

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IamChessNooob

I am reading a book called 121 chess problems and I was looking at one of the solutions and was confused by this R/S#.

 

In the begining of the book it said that S will stand for Knight. I am confused with the '/' What does this mean?

 

There is also this one too.

 

Q/S/P#

 

Can anyone help? Thanks

Sorry if this is a dumb question.

kco

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http://chessexchange.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=4068

DonnieDarko1980

In German we write S for Knight (which is called "Springer"). However I don't understand why they should mix languages and still write R, Q, P, ...

rooperi

Can you post some more of the solution, maybe a few moves, so I can see this in context? Maybe the diagram too?

bobbyDK

maybe / it indicates various soultions something that isn't possible in TT. without knowing the position.

TheOldReb

That book is messed up because thats not correct notation at all. 

Joseph-S
IamChessNooob wrote:

I am reading a book called 121 chess problems and I was looking at one of the solutions and was confused by this R/S#.

 

In the begining of the book it said that S will stand for Knight. I am confused with the '/' What does this mean?

 

There is also this one too.

 

Q/S/P#

 

Can anyone help? Thanks

Sorry if this is a dumb question.


  Elementary.  R/S#.   Rook takes knight, checkmate.

  Q/S/P#.   Queen takes knight pawn, checkmate.

bobbyDK

in position 11 the first move is Nb5 and after that black has 7 moves to choose from, and after that you can deliver mate with either Q /N or pawn depending of course how black responds.

bobbyDK

so / means alternative solution depending on counterplay.

kco

is this the one ?

http://www.anders.thulin.name/PDF/Abbott_121_Chess_Problems.pdf

IamChessNooob

That would be the one Kco. You can see them all over in the solutions. Specificaly I working on number 1 -_-

kco

I can't see or understand the puzzle myself ! lol

IamChessNooob

Yess its very confusing. Especially after I printed the whole book out to learn since I am barely starting out. Very disappointed that I could understand. 

kco

bobbyDK

in number1 you can either mate with rook or the knight on move 2.

on move 1 you take Rxe5. since you haven't checked the king. black has all sorts of moves.....and you can mate with Rook  /or the knight after black moves.

bobbyDK

e.g if black plays Nf3 you have mate with Ne2#

if black plays Be3 you have mate with Rxe3#

since there is a lot of moves black can make. I guess the author didn't go through all of them. this would have made the solution a book on its own. simple stating which pieces can help mating.

kco

?? My Crafty keep saying 1.Qh3+ Nxh3  2.Re3+ Kxd4  3.Rd3#   ?? 

if 1.Rxe5 Rxe5  2.Qxe5 Bxd4  3.Qxa5#  ??

bobbyDK

you must have inserted the wrong pieces since there is a lot of mate in two or crafty isn't that good.

kco

the way I see it from the diagram is this correct ?

bobbyDK

chessmaster mentor lines:

Time    Depth    Score    Positions    Moves
0:24    3/16    Mate02    27263894    1.Rxe5 Bxd4 2.Re3#

after black moves

Time    Depth    Score    Positions    Moves
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1105689        1...c5 2.N4b5#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1105740        1...Nh3 2.Ne2#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1105793        1...Nf3 2.Ne2#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1105845        1...Ne2 2.Nxe2#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1105897        1...Bg3 2.Re3#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1105946        1...Bh4 2.Re3#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1105998        1...Be1 2.Re3#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106048        1...Be3 2.Rxe3#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106093        1...Bxd4 2.Re3#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106141        1...Rxd6 2.Rc5#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106189        1...Rxd4 2.Rc5#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106231        1...Rxe5 2.N4b5#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106284        1...Rc5 2.Rxc5#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106339        1...Rb5 2.N4xb5#
0:01    49/62    Mate01    1106387        1...Kxd4 2.Re4#