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Hello Folks,

Who, in your opinion, was (or is) the GM that excites chess fans the most, and why?

CapablancaAvenged

Had to have been Fischer, he's the reason for the unprecedented boom of chess in America. Him, and whoever is a real hothead to give the people who read Chess magazines something to laugh at (such as the guy who yelled, "How could I lose to this idiot?!)

JohnClayborn

In America I'd definitely have to say Fischer. On the international scene however, I would say probably more like Kasparov.

Akuni

I'd have to say Alexandra Kosteniuk and Arianne Caoili (Though not a GM) are most responsible for exciting chess fans and chess players alike.

steely

I dont watch chess to be honest.

SIXGUNS

Most dangerous player was Fischer, after that TAL.

Emanuel Lasker was dangerous as well. He was decades ahead of his time.

As for linking openings to certain types of endings I give the nod to Akiba Rubenstien.

For smooth cool play I give the nod to Capablanca.

For creativity and immense positional as well as tactical talent I go with Bronstien and Paul Keres.

For cheating on a high level back in the day of the Russian supremacy I go with the GMS that threw thier games in tournaments to other russian players so as to attempt to beat Robert James Fischer.

For my admiration of russian players my tops are Bronstien, Tal ,Keres and Geller..

For greatest chess geniuses ever I go with Fischer ,Capablanca ,Morphy, Charoseuk, Akiba and Pillsbury.

For most disliked by me I go with Karpov, Botvinnik and Petrosian.

For nicest and best chess writer I go with David Bronstien.---Six

SIXGUNS

For greatest to have never won the TITLE

I go with  Akiba Rubinstein, Carl Schlechtor,  Harry Nelson Pillsbury,  Reuben Fine , Paul Keres, David  Bronstien and  Gata Kamsky..

Akuni

"For most disliked by me I go with Karpov, Botvinnik and Petrosian."

You can't hate Petorsian, he was one of the great genii of the Russian Chess School. You can be bored by him if you don't understand, but you can't hate him. Karpov and Botvinnik had their... unfortunate aspects, but their wasn't anything bad about the Iron Tiger except his feud with Korchnoi (Who I see is missing from your list).

And he was so unfairly victimized by the media.

Sigmarsson
Akuni wrote:

I'd have to say Alexandra Kosteniuk and Arianne Caoili (Though not a GM) are most responsible for exciting chess fans and chess players alike.


 This is very strong analysis.  I would, however, add Regina Pokorna of Slovakia to this list. 

AWARDCHESS

Anatoly E. Karpov won most Tournaments and Matches!

So, he was been most dangerous Chess Player!

All other stays far away for him on Chess battle of the Titans...

AWARDCHESS

Спортивные достижения

ГодТурнир+=РезультатМесто
1966 Турнир мастеров и молодых кандидатов в мастера 5 0 10 10 из 15 1
1967 Тршинец, международный турнир 9 0 4 11 из 13 1
1968 Гронинген, международный юношеский турнир (финал) 4 0 3 5½ из 7 1
  Сочи, Матч СССР — Югославия (на юношеской доске) 3 0 1 3½ из 4  
  Рига, Командное первенство СССР (на юношеской доске) 9 0 2 10 из 11 1
1968/69 Чемпионат Московского государственного университета 7 0 6 10 из 13 1
1969 Ленинград, отборочный матч-турнир к юношескому первенству мира 5 2 5 7½ из 12 1
  Москва, матч юниоров СССР — Югославия (3-я доска) 2 0 2 3 из 4  
  Стокгольм, первенство мира среди юношей:
полуфинал
финал

3
9

0
0

3
2

4½ из 6
10 из 11

1
1
1970 Куйбышев, чемпионат РСФСР 8 0 9 12½ из 17 1
  Каракас, международный турнир 8 2 7 11½ из 17 4-6
  Рига, 38-е первенство СССР 5 2 14 12 из 21 5-7
1971 Даугавпилс, 39-е первенство СССР (полуфинал) 9 0 8 13 из 17 1
  Пуэрто-Рико XVIII студенческая Олимпиада (3-я доска) 7 0 1 7½ из 8 1
  Ростов-на-Дону, командное первенство СССР (на юношеской доске) 6 0 1 6½ из 7 1
  Ленинград, 39-е первенство СССР 7 2 12 13 из 21 4
  Москва, мемориал Алехина 5 0 12 11 из 17 1-2
1971/72 Гастингс, международный турнир 8 0 6 11 из 14 1-2
1972 Москва, первая всесоюзная Олимпиада (на 2-й доске) 4 2 3 5½ из 9 3
  Грац, XIX студенческая Олимпиада (на 1-й доске) 5 0 4 7 из 9 1
  Скопле, XX Олимпиада (первый запасной) 12 1 2 13 из 15 1
  Сан-Антонио, международный турнир 7 1 7 10½ из 15 1-3
1973 Будапешт, международный турнир 4 0 11 9½ из 15 2
  Москва, матч-турнир сборных команд страны (на 1-й доске) 2 0 2 3 из 4 1
  Ленинград, международный турнир 10 0 7 13½ из 17 1-2
  Бат, командное первенство Европы (на 4-й доске) 4 0 2 5 из 6 1
  Москва, 41-е первенство СССР (высшая лига) 5 1 11 10½ из 17 2-6
  Мадрид, международный турнир 7 0 8 11 из 15 1
1974 Москва, четвертьфинальный матч претендентов с Львом Полугаевским 3 0 5 5½ из 8  
  Ленинград, полуфинальный матч претендентов с Борисом Спасским 4 1 6 7 из 11  
  Ницца, XXI Олимпиада (на 1-й доске) 10 0 4 12 из 14 1
  Москва, финальный матч претендентов с Виктором Корчным 3 2 19 12½ из 24  
1975 Порторож — Любляна, международный турнир 7 0 8 11 из 15 1
  Рига, спартакиада народов СССР (на 1-й доске) 4 0 3 5½ из 7 1
  Милан, международный турнир
круговой турнир
полуфинальный матч с Тиграном Петрасяном
финальный матч с Лайошом Портишем

3
0
1

1
0
0

7
4
5

6½ из 11
2 из 4
3½ из 6
1


1976 Скопле, международный турнир 10 0 5 12½ из 15 1
  Тбилиси, кубок СССР, (высшая лига, на 1-доске) 2 0 4 4 из 6  
  Амстердам, двухкруговой турнир 4 гроссмейстеров 2 0 4 4 из 6 1
  Манила, двухкруговой турнир 4 гроссмейстеров 1 1 4 3 из 6 2
  Монтилья, международный турнир 5 0 4 7 из 9 1
  Москва, 44-е первенство СССР (высшая лига) 8 1 8 12 из 17 1
1977 Бад-Лаутерберг, международный турнир 9 0 6 из 15 1
  Москва, командное первенство Европы (на 1-й доске) 5 0 0 из 5 1
  Лас-Пальмас, международный турнир 12 0 3 13½ из 15 1
  Ленинград, международный турнир 5 2 10 10 из 17 4-5
  Лондон, международный турнир 3 0 3 4½ из 6 1
  Тилбург, международный турнир 6 0 5 8½ из 11 1
1978 Бугойно, международный турнир 6 1 8 10 из 15 1-2

[править]Матчи на первенство мира

Ray_Brooks

Thanks for posting Greg, everything's much clearer now. Laughing

AWARDCHESS

Paul Keres is #2!

AWARDCHESS

Are you remember, that Fisher did everything to avoid play young Karpov?!

And the players still think of the greatest Fisher in the Chess History...

chesslife
bobbereight wrote:

Had to have been Fischer, he's the reason for the unprecedented boom of chess in America. Him, and whoever is a real hothead to give the people who read Chess magazines something to laugh at (such as the guy who yelled, "How could I lose to this idiot?!)


 sorry, but Aron Nimzowitsch said that

AWARDCHESS

True, Nimzowitsch said it, after loosing one of his games!

AWARDCHESS

The list of Karpov's results above is just a part of his more than 160 Winnings!

Sigmarsson
Gonnosuke wrote:

There is no doubt that Karpov is one of the all-time greats but I wouldn't call his chess exciting by any stretch of the imagination.  Successful? yes, but exciting or entertaining -- hell no!


 Well, let's at least admit that it's a matter of taste.  For instance, when Karpov plays the move 22.g4! in the following game, it's all I can do to stop myself peeing my pants with excitement.  It doesn't clobber you over the head with it's brilliance (like Tal's 15.Rxe6! against Myagmarsuren from the Nice Olympiad, which I can also deeply appreciate), but spend some time investigating it and it can't help but give you the shivers.

Karpov - Uhlmann

Madrid 1973

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Ngf3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.0–0 Nge7 9.Nb3 Bd6 10.Bg5 0–0 11.Bh4 Bg4 12.Be2 Bh5 13.Re1 Qb6 14.Nfd4 Bg6 15.c3 Rfe8 16.Bf1 Be4 17.Bg3 Bxg3 18.hxg3 a5 19.a4 Nxd4 20.Nxd4 Nc6 21.Bb5 Red8 22.g4! Nxd4 23.Qxd4 Qxd4 24.cxd4 Rac8 25.f3 Bg6 26.Re7 b6 27.Rae1 h6 28.Rb7 Rd6 29.Ree7 h5 30.gxh5 Bxh5 31.g4 Bg6 32.f4 Rc1+ 33.Kf2 Rc2+ 34.Ke3 Be4 35.Rxf7 Rg6 36.g5 Kh7 37.Rfe7 Rxb2 38.Be8 Rb3+ 39.Ke2 Rb2+ 40.Ke1 Rd6 41.Rxg7+ Kh8 42.Rge7 1–0

 

dashkee94

There have been many ex-patriot Russians (Lev Alburt, for instance) who tell of masters being flown to Moscow during Karpov's reign to be "strenuously questioned" about some opening innovation they came up with.  Karpov was an incredible technician, but for creativity he was "barren as an infertile woman."  I give him kudos for winning all those tourneys and matches, except for the fact that Fischer wasn't playing.  I do not think Karpov's record would have been anywheres near as good had Fischer played.  Dangerous players, to me, mean those who can come up with incredible moves over the board.  Lasker was one of the best here, as was Bronstein, Tal, and Fischer (maybe the best ever).  I don't include Kasparov since he, like Alekhine, did his serious work at home, not at the board with the clock ticking.

Sigmarsson
dashkee94 wrote:

. . . I don't include Kasparov since he, like Alekhine, did his serious work at home, not at the board with the clock ticking.


 Cuz, you know, Fischer (whom I respect greatly) never had any home prep...