Difference between FIDE elo and CHESSCOM elo?

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KeSetoKaiba

It depends on many variables to estimate this, but there is no exact conversion between them because they are two different rating systems and two different player pools. It also matters how high rated you are because the gap between FIDE and chess.com might be different at different levels.

Complications aside, I'd say FIDE compared to chess.com rapid is about 300-400 points tougher. If you are 1500 chess.com rapid rating, then this might be equal to around 1100 FIDE rating. This is again just a very loose estimate though.

sapphire_kaleidoscope

Hmm interesting. I remember some guy who was 1600 chess.com at that time and said his play was roughly 1350 FIDE according to his square off board that had its bot calibrated to FIDE.

PremovePerry69420

It depends from person to person, the accuracy between the gap will also depend on FIDE activity.

For example, I have consistent 2200 rapid and 2300 blitz (barring random tilts), but only 1700 FIDE because I haven't had the time to play in-person tournaments because of exams.

Really it does depend on the person, although the gap is generally larger for juniors and smaller for adults.

Blindluckinc
KeSetoKaiba kirjutas:

It depends on many variables to estimate this, but there is no exact conversion between them because they are two different rating systems and two different player pools. It also matters how high rated you are because the gap between FIDE and chess.com might be different at different levels.

Complications aside, I'd say FIDE compared to chess.com rapid is about 300-400 points tougher. If you are 1500 chess.com rapid rating, then this might be equal to around 1100 FIDE rating. This is again just a very loose estimate though.

I can confirm. I play both, and Chess.com is about 300 points inflated compared to FIDE.

tygxc

I believe the gap is about +100.
Look at the chess.com leaderboard and look up their FIDE rating.

tygxc

@7

It is more common to be underrated in FIDE than online.
Online responds immediately to losses/wins/draws.
FIDE reponds with months of delay.

magipi
tygxc wrote:

I believe the gap is about +100.
Look at the chess.com leaderboard and look up their FIDE rating.

At the top of the leaderboard it's much more than +100, it's about +400. Even more in the case of Magnus.

Magnus FiDE blitz 2886, chess.com blitz 3359

Hikaru FiDE blitz 2874, chess.com blitz 3260

Blindluckinc
magipi kirjutas:
tygxc wrote:

I believe the gap is about +100.
Look at the chess.com leaderboard and look up their FIDE rating.

At the top of the leaderboard it's much more than +100, it's about +400. Even more in the case of Magnus.

Magnus FiDE blitz 2886, chess.com blitz 3359

Hikaru FiDE blitz 2874, chess.com blitz 3260

yeah, I agree. As here they get many more games, they can rise in rating more.

Bogopawn657

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIDE ELO AND THE MAKE BELIEVE ELO SYSTEM USED FOR ON-LINE CHESS SITES IS SIMPLE FIDE ELO RATINGS COUNT TOWARDS NORM EVENTS WHICH CAN EARN A PLAYER MASTER TITLES ... HOWEVER ON-LINE CHESS SITES AND NOT JUST CHESS COM ALL GIVE WHAT IS KNOWN AS A ESTIMATED ELO, ITS NOT LEGITIMATE BUT ONLY A BASIC GUIDE TO YOUR PROGRESS ABILITY, ,,, SO DONT TAKE IT TO HEART WIN OR LOSE AS ITS ONLY A BASIC GUIDE, UNLESS YOU WISH TO TAKE UP OVER THE BOARD EVENTS THROUGH BCF & FIDE AND THATS WHERE REAL CHESS BEGINS!!!

Blindluckinc

One more aspect: a lot of FIDE tournaments are played under the Swizz system, which means, the vast majority of players are more or less guaranteed to lose a decent share of the games. One can not grind the rating as in chess.com.

Blindluckinc
Optimissed kirjutas:

Chess.com doesn't use the ELO system, so they don't use ELO at all. That's one rather important difference.

https://www.chess.com/terms/elo-rating-chessThey say, they do. As ELO shows relative strength, then yes, it is against the player pool in that environment.

magipi
Blindluckinc wrote:
Optimissed kirjutas:

Chess.com doesn't use the ELO system, so they don't use ELO at all. That's one rather important difference.

https://www.chess.com/terms/elo-rating-chessThey say, they do. As ELO shows relative strength, then yes, it is against the player pool in that environment.

Sure, chess.com uses a modified system (Glicko) instead of Elo, but the difference is smaller than anyone thinks.

Also, don't write ELO in all caps. It's not an acronym, it's named after the inventor. ELO is a rock band.

GMCoolChessKid125

Im rated more in fide than on chess.com

tygxc

@8

"At the top of the leaderboard it's much more than +100, it's about +400."
For rapid the difference is +38
For blitz the difference is +304

# Player rapid rapid rapid blitz blitz blitz
chess.com FIDE difference chess.com FIDE difference
1 Carlsen 2896 2823 73 3253 2886 367
2 Caruana 2757 2722 35 3036 2770 266
3 Nakamura 2769 2746 23 3254 2874 380
4 Abdusattorov 2770 2733 37 3033 2661 372
5 Giri 2741 2687 54 3087 2715 372
6 Ding 2719 2818 -99 3128 2787 341
7 Firouzja 2829 2724 105 3127 2863 264
8 Nepomniachtchi 2811 2754 57 3088 2800 288
9 So 2843 2742 101 3030 2767 263
10 Wei Yi 2740 2743 -3 3107 2984 123
Average 38 304
Standard Deviation 59 80

Thatmoralguy07

I think I'm going to get opposition, but I feel like chesscom elo is your actual elo. A lot of people think it's inflated, but then say that people don't get to play as many fide games. So, doesn't that just prove the point?

If I were hikaru, or magnus, I would rather focus on online elo, because if you lose it, you can gain it back instantly. OTB requires way more time. You are still playing tough opponents. In most cases you are playing the game with no help, and all skill. Idk how people think chesscom is inflated?

My thought on this is simply you play 30,000 games against people your own skill. If they use the same elo system, why wouldn't your rating be your actual elo? It would be almost impossible to play 30,000 fide games, I feel. Which is why fide rating is lower. It's the only reason, no?

magipi
Thatmoralguy07 wrote:

My thought on this is simply you play 30,000 games against people your own skill. If they use the same elo system, why wouldn't your rating be your actual elo? It would be almost impossible to play 30,000 fide games, I feel. Which is why fide rating is lower. It's the only reason, no?

No. It's not the reason at all. You fundamentally misunderstand how chess ratings work. Playing more games won't increase your rating. Winning will increase your rating, and losing will decrease it.

medelpad
#18 He most likely meant that the rating shown after the 30000 games would be a more accurate depiction of your playing strenght instead of your FIDE rating if one doesn’t play FIDE rated games often.
Bogopawn657

What iscthe difference between a Elo rating of FIDE and one from Chess.com and other online chess sites ....very simple:

Bogopawn657

ANSWER: FIDE ELO RATING IS GENUINE, ITS BY THE WORLD CHESS GOV BODY, RATINFS ON ANY OF THE ONLIBE CHESS SITES ARE SUCH AS CHESS.COM-LICHESS-SCHEMINGMIND AND OTGERS ARE JUST THERE OWN MADE UP VERSION WHERE'S A FIDE RATING IS 100% LEGITIMATE!