Do us girls have a psychological edge when playing with men?

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gchess33

You  really need to check your sources carefully (and post them) before you make such an a absolute statement as "women are more intelligent on average than men". Just who has been tested for intelligence in this study? What is intelligence defined as? One thing you are doing wrong is equating intelligence with IQ. IQ only measures certain aspects of intelligence but not all. Thus, you need another way besides that. Also, EQ is not based on gender. It is primarily based on personality. Sure, between the male and female stereotypes, the female one possesses a higher EQ typically, but stereotypes only fit a small number of people in the world. Please do enlighten us and post your sources.

TRextastic
gchess33 wrote:

You  really need to check your sources carefully (and post them) before you make such an a absolute statement as "women are more intelligent on average than men". Just who has been tested for intelligence in this study? What is intelligence defined as? One thing you are doing wrong is equating intelligence with IQ. IQ only measures certain aspects of intelligence but not all. Thus, you need another way besides that. Also, EQ is not based on gender. It is primarily based on personality. Sure, between the male and female stereotypes, the female one possesses a higher EQ typically, but stereotypes only fit a small number of people in the world. Please do enlighten us and post your sources.

Post sources to what? If you disagree with the use of IQ, EQ, and college completion as any sort of testament to intelligence then what would be the point of posting a source to those studies? Those are the only ways we currently have of measuring intelligence. If you would like to enlighten us with your perfected way of measuring intelligence then I'd be happy to hear it. But as it stands, the initial argument was that because there were three intelligent men in history then men are smarter. I gave scientific and statistical evidence to the contrary. These methods aren't perfect, but they're far more reliable than "Leonardo Da Vinci existed so men are smarter."

Bloma_Kok

Hahahahaha this is funny. Guys why are you so mad? Let´s party and play chess with some girls to show them that their psychological edge is nothing compared to our concentrated masculinity.

gchess33
TRextastic wrote:
gchess33 wrote:

You  really need to check your sources carefully (and post them) before you make such an a absolute statement as "women are more intelligent on average than men". Just who has been tested for intelligence in this study? What is intelligence defined as? One thing you are doing wrong is equating intelligence with IQ. IQ only measures certain aspects of intelligence but not all. Thus, you need another way besides that. Also, EQ is not based on gender. It is primarily based on personality. Sure, between the male and female stereotypes, the female one possesses a higher EQ typically, but stereotypes only fit a small number of people in the world. Please do enlighten us and post your sources.

Post sources to what? If you disagree with the use of IQ, EQ, and college completion as any sort of testament to intelligence then what would be the point of posting a source to those studies? Those are the only ways we currently have of measuring intelligence. If you would like to enlighten us with your perfected way of measuring intelligence then I'd be happy to hear it. But as it stands, the initial argument was that because there were three intelligent men in history then men are smarter. I gave scientific and statistical evidence to the contrary. These methods aren't perfect, but they're far more reliable than "Leonardo Da Vinci existed so men are smarter."

You mistake me. I am not saying that IQ, EQ, and college completion don't contribute to intelligence; I am saying that they are not the only factors for intelligence. Gender really has nothing to do with intelligence. One can be highly intelligent just by working hard at their education. What you really need to do here to prove your point is post your sources, tell us what the average IQ, EQ, percentage of college completion, etc. is for each gender and also provide us with the conditions of the study (i.e. who and how many people of each gender were tested). If you do not provide such basic measures to back up your vague statement, then there is no reason to believe what you are saying is true or that you are indeed serious about such a statement. In saying such things you are essentially stereotyping each gender with a certain characteristic (when in fact a few possess it and most don't). You cannot expect to say such absolute statements without providing some form of data to back it up. Such action is folly.

gchess33

http://listovative.com/top-12-people-highest-iq-world/

 

Note how many women there are in the list.

gchess33

That's your problem. Rather than appeal to reason you appeal to your ego.

gchess33

Once you say that you are using reason and yet there is no observable concrete data; on the other hand you stipulate that I should not take an extremely judgmental absolute statement which has as of yet no supporting evidence seriously. You claim to use reason and yet your tones and arguments say otherwise; it is a wrongful paradox which you must not follow, a harmful hypocrisy which clouds your apparent facts.

BlargDragon
1NaturalDisaster wrote:
TRextastic wrote:
1NaturalDisaster wrote:

 

People need to shut up about women's rights, because they were never taken from them!!

You're right. They were never taken because we didn't have them to begin with. Like the right to vote, or work, or hold office, or even speak in public. Women have always had those rights... if you just wipe out all of history then yeah, you're right.

Listen, where are you getting this information?? Do you think these things because that is what society would have you believe? Women have the rights to: Be a caregiver, be the Husbands companion, and lot's of others.

There is a dominate gender in society, and that is the MALE gender. Men work for the food, protects his family, and has his place in relationship with woman. It is from God that we are given the principle which our society is founded upon. In the past, those things might have been twisted, but in 2016, poeple are treated quite fairly dispite gender.

But back on my dominate gender argument, if WOMEN were the dominate gender, then men could throw protests about how things are. And in today's society, the position of man and woman have been blured. So shut up about womens' rights already.

I see you've delegated spelling and grammar to women along with caretaking.

TRextastic
1NaturalDisaster wrote:
TRextastic wrote:
1NaturalDisaster wrote:

 

People need to shut up about women's rights, because they were never taken from them!!

You're right. They were never taken because we didn't have them to begin with. Like the right to vote, or work, or hold office, or even speak in public. Women have always had those rights... if you just wipe out all of history then yeah, you're right.

Listen, where are you getting this information?? Do you think these things because that is what society would have you believe? Women have the rights to: Be a caregiver, be the Husbands companion, and lot's of others.

There is a dominate gender in society, and that is the MALE gender. Men work for the food, protects his family, and has his place in relationship with woman. It is from God that we are given the principle which our society is founded upon. In the past, those things might have been twisted, but in 2016, poeple are treated quite fairly dispite gender.

But back on my dominate gender argument, if WOMEN were the dominate gender, then men could throw protests about how things are. And in today's society, the position of man and woman have been blured. So shut up about womens' rights already.

In regards to that other thread about whether or not I've experienced discrimination in chess, I change my answer. Yes, I guess I have.

gchess33

This is not during a chess game though; it is a forum.

TRextastic
gchess33 wrote:
TRextastic wrote:
gchess33 wrote:

You  really need to check your sources carefully (and post them) before you make such an a absolute statement as "women are more intelligent on average than men". Just who has been tested for intelligence in this study? What is intelligence defined as? One thing you are doing wrong is equating intelligence with IQ. IQ only measures certain aspects of intelligence but not all. Thus, you need another way besides that. Also, EQ is not based on gender. It is primarily based on personality. Sure, between the male and female stereotypes, the female one possesses a higher EQ typically, but stereotypes only fit a small number of people in the world. Please do enlighten us and post your sources.

Post sources to what? If you disagree with the use of IQ, EQ, and college completion as any sort of testament to intelligence then what would be the point of posting a source to those studies? Those are the only ways we currently have of measuring intelligence. If you would like to enlighten us with your perfected way of measuring intelligence then I'd be happy to hear it. But as it stands, the initial argument was that because there were three intelligent men in history then men are smarter. I gave scientific and statistical evidence to the contrary. These methods aren't perfect, but they're far more reliable than "Leonardo Da Vinci existed so men are smarter."

You mistake me. I am not saying that IQ, EQ, and college completion don't contribute to intelligence; I am saying that they are not the only factors for intelligence. Gender really has nothing to do with intelligence. One can be highly intelligent just by working hard at their education. What you really need to do here to prove your point is post your sources, tell us what the average IQ, EQ, percentage of college completion, etc. is for each gender and also provide us with the conditions of the study (i.e. who and how many people of each gender were tested). If you do not provide such basic measures to back up your vague statement, then there is no reason to believe what you are saying is true or that you are indeed serious about such a statement. In saying such things you are essentially stereotyping each gender with a certain characteristic (when in fact a few possess it and most don't). You cannot expect to say such absolute statements without providing some form of data to back it up. Such action is folly.

Honestly I mostly agree with you. Men and women are just as capable of accomplishing a great deal in the intellectual world (if that is the intelligence we're addressing). I was only responding to a dumb argument about men being smarter. I'm happy to post links to the studies I've mentioned:

IQ: http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2012/07/16/women-surpass-men-in-iq-but-are-other-factors-more-important/#6904610a1542

(and actually, this one is really interesting because it also makes the points you do, that IQ isn't everything, just one factor)

 

EQ: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-brain-and-emotional-intelligence/201104/are-women-more-emotionally-intelligent-men
(this one also supports my argument that men are better at compartmentalizing emotion than women)

 

College Completion: http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/10/31/women-more-likely-to-graduate-college-but-still-earn-less-than-men

gchess33

EQ really has more to do with personality. For example, according to the Myers-Briggs system of personality types, Feelers generally possess more empathy than Thinkers.

TRextastic
gchess33 wrote:

EQ really has more to do with personality. For example, according to the Myers-Briggs system of personality types, Feelers generally possess more empathy than Thinkers.

Well that's true. But I do think men and women's brains are still hardwired in different ways.

Stolen_Authenticity

I wanna both look and 'play' like Him!  0:

SilentKnighte5

Ummm.

TRextastic
gchess33 wrote:

http://listovative.com/top-12-people-highest-iq-world/

 

Note how many women there are in the list.

 

This list somewhat confuses me. Those are not the highest IQs ever recorded. It just seems like a random list.

TRextastic

Ummm what?

SilentKnighte5
TRextastic wrote:

Either trolling or didn't read the first sentence.

SaintGermain32105

Nice.

Stolen_Authenticity

The " 'Pot' Calling the 'Kettle' Black"?!

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