Do you feel comfortable ? if exchange the queen very early

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jootoo

Do you feel comfortable ? if exchange the queen very early, say before the move 10~15.

I think somebody will feel the game become less interesting, or feel uncomfortable for lossing the most powerful piece.Frown

There is no queen and bishop in Chinese chess (Xiangqi), and most Chinese know how to play Xiangqi, me too, so when I start to play chess, generally I will exchange the queen asap, to make my opponent feel uncomfortable and make me to avoid using the totally new piece (just to me)- queen.Laughing

of course, the way above has no any impact to the high rate players, but maybe there is some "bad impact" on others.

Now I do not use this way anymore, unless the exchange could force her/his king to move and loss the possible of castling.

SimplicityItself

I feel quite comfortable either way, and enjoy when my opponent expends tempi trying to either keep or dispose of her majesty. Yes, queens-off bugs some people.

Bruiser419

I wouldn't say it makes me uncomfortable.  It does make it more difficult though, at least for me.

ghostofmaroczy

Interesting thought jootoo.  Exchange the queen off and you are back to playing "chess without the mad queen."

jootoo
ghostofmaroczy wrote:

Interesting thought jootoo.  Exchange the queen off and you are back to playing "chess without the mad queen."


"mad queen", LOL Laughing

yes, in my 1st 20 games, I do not know how to control her, so I kick her out and exchange her asap, then somebody feel boring.

Queenie

 I don't mind one little bit if I lose my queen at any time during the game. In fact it does make for some very interesting play, but it does infuriate me when because I've lost my queen my opponent automatically thinks I've lost, and should resign.

xMenace

It certainly changes the landscape. Quick and devistating attacks are much less likely; accumulation of small advantages seems to be the approach one should take. I find it a difficult transition to make sometimes. The queen is by far my favorite piece, and I miss not having her around. I'm not so much uncomfortable. It's more an unwillingness to cahnge my approach.

Keyif

I enjoy the exchange. It really modifies the game and brings the other pieces into play. I am somewhat a positional player and with the Queen gone you really have to pick your square very carefully. (not that I do Wink all the time). It also can be more forgiving with her gone as a blunder that she could capitalize on might not be able to be taken advantage of.

JG27Pyth

I think the more confident you become in your endgame abilities, the less you mind playing without Queens on the board. 

onosson

I don't mind trading queens early.  If my opponent brings out his queen, I will often "challenge" them by attacking it directly with my queen and offering an exchange.  If they refuse, because they would rather hang on to it longer, I usually gain in both tempi and position.  

An important part of the psychology of chess - use your opponent's irrational thoughts and desires (in this case, the desire to keep the queen on the board at all costs) to your advantage as much as possible.

MichielTummers

i love the queens off the board, makes me more comfortable:P

jootoo
onosson wrote:

I don't mind trading queens early.  If my opponent brings out his queen, I will often "challenge" them by attacking it directly with my queen and offering an exchange.  If they refuse, because they would rather hang on to it longer, I usually gain in both tempi and position.  

An important part of the psychology of chess - use your opponent's irrational thoughts and desires (in this case, the desire to keep the queen on the board at all costs) to your advantage as much as possible.


My God, this is exactly what I think and what I did at my games, how do you know ?

Loomis

In the game that is commonly known as the "Game of the Century" Bobby Fischer sacrifices his queen and then completely mauls Donald Byrne with a minor piece attack. The queen is not the only piece that can bring swift and devastating attacks!

Keyif
Loomis wrote:

In the game that is commonly known as the "Game of the Century" Bobby Fischer sacrifices his queen and then completely mauls Robert Byrne with a minor piece attack. The queen is not the only piece that can bring swift and devastating attacks!


Here is the original score sheet for that game.

AMcHarg

The point is that the ultimate goal of Chess is to checkmate your opponent, the other pieces are simply a tool to enable you to do that.  If sacrafising your Queen or more gets you in a winning position then do it instantly.  Many people don't realise this and always assume that greater material always wins.

On the other hand, having greater material is by far the most common cause for you winning which is why when an opponent blunders a piece away you will have a winning advantage if you are able to capitalize.  Hang material on YOUR terms, not on the terms of your opponent or luck!

I personally don't mind trading Queens early and I will always seek to do so if it improves my position.  If I lose tempo or positional play with the exchange then I usually try to avoid it.

uritbon

i actualy feel quite comfortable without the queen, as i sometimes play the ending very well (if my opponent doesn't know how to play the ending and spot the critical moments :P)

philirtus

Exchanging queen for me only works if I have a good pawn structure.  Its almost impossible to just trade queens, usually I will try to take one of there bishops for a knight and then make it so there bishop cant really move.  Otherwise with people better than me they will just take pieces slowly.

brandonQDSH

In general, it bothers me if I'm White because I feel Queens off favors Black as there are fewer threats and a lot less complexity on the board.

I like it as Black as I feel like if I come out of the opening with equality and Queens off, it's almost impossible to lose to an equal or inferior opponent.

In general, if I'm ahead, even by a pawn, I love it when the Queens are off early, as I feel it's easier to protect the lead and ride even a +1 lead to victory :)

Ricardo_Morro

Sometimes I will play to get the queens off the board against superior tactical players. Once I had the opportunity to play the master Jude Acers. I had observed he was a great attacker who favored his queen--the queen in his hands was terrifying! So I played a weak opening that must have convinced him I was a fool and that allowed him to trade queens while making my king recapture, my king thus losing the right to castle and being left in the middle. This was too much advantage for him to resist. Poof! Off go the queens! But after that I was able to use my positional play to build a frustrating defense, and in the end I won. So, yes, sometimes I like to get the queens off the board. I cherish a clear plan over the complications--and sometimes chaos--wrought by the queen. 

jchen

wait I thought chinese chess was weichi??

I guess it's sometimes good to have your queen exchanged, and sometimes it's bad to lose your most powerful piece (even though your opponent lost her too) That's what I think :P