Do you think there is a relation between chess and music?

Tom226 wrote:

Everyone knows that "Dun dun dun Dun!" "Dun dun dun dun"... tell me that is not straight out of a game of chess.

Then it goes "Dun dun dun dun, dun dun dun dun, dun dun dun dn" And it has this metronome sort of clock rhythm kick on here (Bum bum) , dun dun don dun , dun dun don dun, dun dun dun Dun. Bah bah bah bah bah. Bah bah bah bah bah. Bah bah bah bah , bah Buh.

Over the top of your pattern I posit a little flair

"OOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......EEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEE" note this part is in the 3 or fourth ....possibly fifth octave

yep. But as a chessplayer I'm only a recent convert. But I'm hooked. 

Yes - i think there is a relationaship between chess and music... "Blitz chess is poetry in motion, its Bird Powell on Jazz piano, Charlie Parker on tennor sax. The tempo is fast & furious. But also blissfully mellodic. At times while playing Blitz chess i feel im at one with the world, flowing with its flow, in synch with its bebop rhythms"... ( Robert Desjarlais ) 

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Spot on, and beautifully written.

I'm also a chess-loving musician, and the only subject i ever really enjoyed at school was mathematics.  I'd be very interested to know how many people on this site are also musicians.  And i'll bet there are plenty mathematicians here too, to crunch the numbers!

I definitely agree with that, as a jazz musician myself. (Although, Charlie Parker played ALTO sax, not tenor!) I think that jazz could probably be compared to chess more so than any other type of music, because when improvising a solo in a jazz group or playing chess, it all comes down to striking a balance between continuing with the development of your ideas and reacting to your opponent's/the rhythm section's.

*Bud* Powell,  *Bird* aka Charlie Parker

Yeah, thanks, I didn't catch that one...

Im pretty sure Chess and Music are pretty strongly correlated. Possibly because each demands a level of competancy in almost another 'language' (either reading notes in music or understanding coordinates).  In addition, both require similar creative skill sets, chess obviously needs no explanation as once theorys over players need to think for themselves, similiar to music in terms of interpretation of playing.

As a musician, guitar player, teacher and chess player, i can say that absolutely YES!

Specially in terms like Material - Language, Rules/Theory, Structures, Patterns, Discipline, Strategie and Tactics (in music, when one compose a piece or practice the instrument in order to improve), Creativity, and a couple of motre etc. There are many studies also about this thema.. speacially about practicing routines of chess players and musicians..

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I don't think chess will help your music skills (I'm assuming you mean playing an instrument or singing). The 2 are very different, even at a fundamental level like there is no rhythm in a chess game (I'd even say speaking can help you more with music than chess).

WRT this post title, there are many relationships between chess and music:

- both are fun activities that make good life-long hobbies (and actually, in this regard, chess has an edge over music as musical performance is a fairly strenuous affair.

- both are great at killing time at the airport: you can easily kill off an couple of hours playing chess online or relax and listen to music for a couple of hours.

- both don't pay well as a profession. Here, I must say that music has the edge because there's more demand for music teachers; but they all pay pretty low. (Remember, only a few reach the highest levels, so as a career, we must think in terms of the masses of lowly paid teachers.)

- both are forms of entertainment that has survived the test of time and culture.  All cultures seems to have something like chess and music; some more compatible with the western standards than others. I.e. chess and msuci isn't going to go anywhere.

- both can be done on the computer with precision and ease; you can certainly ask the computer to play a musical piece for you, and the same for a chess game. You can have the computer play the accompaniment and you can have the computer play opposing moves.

In my experience there are some similarities - the main ones being: Thinking in lines as well as the overall position which is similar to contrupuntal lines and vertical harmony in music (and the corresponding compromises that have to be made - in music as with chess, sometimes a line seems really good on one instrumental part but doesn't work when taking everything around it into account). Also working on visualising the chessboard seems to be the visual equivalent of developing your aural memory and abilities in music. I'm mainly talking about writing linear/contrapuntal styles of music in the first point although I think it can apply to all styles to some degree... My 2p!

absolutly, it help recognition, think abstraction and brain connection se site

I dont know why, but playing piano before a chess match helps definitely. Mayby because it's stimulating the brain ...

i think so

I would say chess is inclusive and more accessible to people because with music, you at least need natural talent to get further. This is my personal opinion and based on stage performance with my acoustic guitar and singing vs studying or playing chess.

Do you see stage presence and showmanship or girls flaunting for chess?

both have black and white

„Chess, like love, like music, has the power to make men happy.“---  Siegbert Tarrasch