"Chess scoresheets may be used for recording matters relevant to the game."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_tournament
Does anyone write notes about the game when they play chess?
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Do in some online games, don't play tournaments.
Oct 25, 2012
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EliasAStern wrote:
"Chess scoresheets may be used for recording matters relevant to the game."
scoresheet must only contain the game I am sure wiki is wrong on that check the fide rules instead.
Imagine writing something about the game and suddenly your opponent ask to see your scoresheet during the game because he may need to check his scoresheet and you wrote something about a bad move.
Oct 25, 2012
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paulgottlieb wrote:
I believe that FIDE rules even make it illegal to write down your move before making it--a really stupid extension of the basic rule against making notes for yourself during the game
this is a great rule ...and in my opinion should be the same as touching a piece writing a move in advance and then play something differently. if you write in advance you have to play it.
some write something and discover that it is bad and play something else.
Oct 25, 2012
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Yeah, notes are illegal during the game according to USCF rules. (Don't worry about FIDE rules unless you plan to play in FIDE tournaments.) I do sometimes record the time remaining, which is allowed. But I often don't. Although it might be slightly helpful later to determine my own habits, at the time it's a distraction from the game at hand.
Apart from moves, think you are allowed to record time, draw offers, and you are allowed to mark the time control moves in advance.
But that's about it.
I have seen disputes abour this rule in tournaments.
Coaches in South Africa are very "territorial" about groups and schools they train, and it was very common for some coaches to teach kids, to 1st write down, then final check, then move.
Rival coaches instructed their kids to complain to TD's when this happens.
Playing politics where kids are involved is so ugly....
skullskullskull wrote:
It's a score sheet. Writing down your move before moving is ridiculous and is rightly outlawed.
Does this happen in any other game? No. Last time I watched a baseball game, the points didn't go on the board until after the player crossed home plate, not when he was thinking about rounding third.
I always assumed the "score" in scoresheet is more like a musical score than a sports score.
Score in the sense you mention is 1-0, ½-½,or 0-1
skullskullskull wrote:
It's a score sheet. Writing down your move before moving is ridiculous and is rightly outlawed.
Does this happen in any other game? No. Last time I watched a baseball game, the points didn't go on the board until after the player crossed home plate, not when he was thinking about rounding third.
But to answer your question, no I don't take notes. Sometimes when I'm feeling like a basterd, I'll write questions marks after my opponents move to attempt to psychologically undermine their confidence.
A terrible analogy because in other sports you can't completely control the next play. In chess you can be certain of your next move before it happens.
Oct 25, 2012
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skullskullskull wrote:
It's a score sheet. Writing down your move before moving is ridiculous and is rightly outlawed.
Does this happen in any other game? No. Last time I watched a baseball game, the points didn't go on the board until after the player crossed home plate, not when he was thinking about rounding third.
But to answer your question, no I don't take notes. Sometimes when I'm feeling like a basterd, I'll write questions marks after my opponents move to attempt to psychologically undermine their confidence.
Your analogy with runs scored is a bit off. It would be more like if the manager of one team penciled a pinch-hitter onto his scoresheet before the player's turn at bat. I have my Official Rules of Baseball right here and can't find any rule against it. And if they hadn't notified the umpire of the change and the pinch-hitter had not yet entered the game, they'd be free to NOT put the person in.
Generally, in sports, people are allowed to write whatever notes they want (unless they're actually playing - in most sports, pencils are not allowed in the field for safety reasons.) In baseball, players will send "notes" to each other in the form of signs. And they're allowed to get advice from the sidelines. Heck, in (American) football, the quarterback has communications gear in his helmet so the coach can talk to him between plays. Chess is different, for several reasons.
Writing down the move in advance may indeed be a form of note-taking... but it's SO limited that I would not have a problem allowing it.
hell yes
Oct 25, 2012
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EliasAStern wrote:
Specifically at a tournament does anyone keep notes? Do you find it helpful? What do you write down? Is it worth trying? Any specific methods?
Thanks,
Elias
I use the back of my score sheet, as soon after the game is ended, to write down my immediate thoughts re: the game, if I leave it until after the tournament I forget the details of why I made such and such a move.
I find it helps a lot. I then go over the game without an engine and then when I have completed that I will check my ideas with the engine to check if I was right or not.
Specifically at a tournament does anyone keep notes? Do you find it helpful? What do you write down? Is it worth trying? Any specific methods?
Thanks,
Elias