Does Chess.com use Bots as Players on their live Games?

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Martin_Stahl
wander_falke wrote:

pay money and you will play vs real humans that do blunder and make mistakes at 800 , its way to easy to program such bots and why would they let them play vs paying customers that stream and such, its incredible if you see the horrific mistakes those streamers at 1800, 2k and their opponents make and then compare it to the lowelo games where 90% accuracy is played constantly with perfect openings and maybe a single mistake , it is way to obvious...

The site does not use bot players in the random pools. The site only uses bots in the vs Computer section.

strongkiddo
Martin is kinda right
strongkiddo
If chess.com used bots as players then I wouldn’t be able to chat about my opponents favourite dish
Real-Rain

Bots are effectively allowed in random match to expedite matchmaking, and the bots themselves aren't trying to beat you neccessarily. They are trying to make moves that keep the bot within a certain ELO. The problem with the whole thing is that bots don't play like humans. So it is a bot playing a complex strategy that I can't understand, and then we either blunder as a result, or the bot has to blunder so that it can maintain its goal of having a specific ELO range. Chesscom doesn't really care about this because it's basically undetectable at low elo, and they can basically only detect cheating when it approaches top level play. Everything else is too speculative. What is annoying is that Chesscom acts like they do have this under control, and they absolutely don't. This and blunder checking by low level players, or suboptimal engine assist when a player gets down a piece or a queen make low level ELO basically impossible unless you know what you were doing. Horrible website because they misrepresent what kind of handle they have on this.

AngryPuffer

you would think that with all the many humans I've played in real life I would see people here playing similarly or just like them, but strangely I don't? No actual human is playing or wants to play like the people on chess.com do. Theres a reason why people play on lichess instead. At least they are all human.

thesigmaestsigma

definitely. I think nearly every online game does

thesigmaestsigma

Fifa does. and chess certainly has dda

Real-Rain
Martin_Stahl wrote:
wander_falke wrote:

pay money and you will play vs real humans that do blunder and make mistakes at 800 , its way to easy to program such bots and why would they let them play vs paying customers that stream and such, its incredible if you see the horrific mistakes those streamers at 1800, 2k and their opponents make and then compare it to the lowelo games where 90% accuracy is played constantly with perfect openings and maybe a single mistake , it is way to obvious...

The site does not use bot players in the random pools. The site only uses bots in the vs Computer section.

- The questions isn't "do they use bots", it is "Do they effectively allow bots to play because the bot accounts increase the liquidity of gameplay" which they very clearly do. Your comment obtusely deflects from that along with the other chess.com party line propaganda I have seen you post.

nov04-inactive
jrm05 wrote:

Im pretty sure they use bot as humans players. im a normal 1400 player and i played everyday. I am now 1100. Not because im too weak, i sometimes played 91% accuracy and the lowest was 59 or less on my worst. On my best at 1100 player, i battle with someone who is 88- 90% accurate most of the times with a weird names photos and etc. And at my worst, we are both below in accuracies. Means it depends how we played the game and the human bot depends on how you manage to counter those moves. You need to outplayed them on opening to midgame coz they crushed you instantly on midgames if you don't have enough skills. Im on Champion League Level. 

I am very annoyed on this Chess.com strategy. Did everyone notice that searching or finding opponents are too fast, unlike Lichess. 🤔

so many trolls upvoting this wow

nov04-inactive

plus the leagues were only so that more people would play most of the times A 500 would win the league cuz they only play against other 500's and play like 30 games per day

Hannas9

they prob use bots then use a human to type in the chat

Hannas9

JUST SAYING

Real-Rain
Hannas9 wrote:

they prob use bots then use a human to type in the chat

- I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not, but chess.com seems to use formulaic bots in chat to deflect and counter dissent.

Martin_Stahl
Real-Rain wrote:

- The questions isn't "do they use bots", it is "Do they effectively allow bots to play because the bot accounts increase the liquidity of gameplay" which they very clearly do. Your comment obtusely deflects from that along with the other chess.com party line propaganda I have seen you post.

The site has dedicated staff and automated tools to try and detection and handle members that create accounts and use bots. It's not something being allowed.

If you run across anyone you suspect of that, you should report them.

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8562517-how-do-i-report-someone

The site closed over 62,000 accounts in May for fair play violations.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chesscom-update-june-2024?alert=content#FairPlay

https://www.chess.com/article/view/online-chess-cheating

RedSea777

Why wouldn't they use bots as real players? Just use your imagination for 15 minutes and think of all the unethical business financial benefits that could come from using this strategy, not to mention that it could easily be kept in secret very easily. Again I ask, why wouldn't they?

BigChessplayer665
RedSea777 wrote:

Why wouldn't they use bots as real players? Just use your imagination for 15 minutes and think of all the unethical business financial benefits that could come from using this strategy, not to mention that it could easily be kept in secret very easily. Again I ask, why wouldn't they?

And how much money do you think it would cost bots require CPU plus why would they use bots when they can just use humans instead there are plenty of humans that are easier to manipulate than bots

BigChessplayer665

Like explain all the kids that are 2000+ how did they get so good ? they could crush you any day despite so called "bots"

BigChessplayer665
wander_falke wrote:

pay money and you will play vs real humans that do blunder and make mistakes at 800 , its way to easy to program such bots and why would they let them play vs paying customers that stream and such, its incredible if you see the horrific mistakes those streamers at 1800, 2k and their opponents make and then compare it to the lowelo games where 90% accuracy is played constantly with perfect openings and maybe a single mistake , it is way to obvious, also it is an american site, nothing counts besides money, really nothing, if you dont believe it have a look at modern slavery that is included in the general companymindset of US companies, the healthcare, the inflation , the extreme split in wealth, education bound on money, everything ...

Even if I don't pay I get the same type of people lmfao the only time I get cheaters or the so called "bots ) are when I create new accounts consistently usually i get a cheater one in like twenty games or less and that has been the case for a long time now

Hannas9
Real-Rain wrote:
Hannas9 wrote:

they prob use bots then use a human to type in the chat

- I don't know if you are being sarcastic or not, but chess.com seems to use formulaic bots in chat to deflect and counter dissent.

Not being sarcastic here, this is just my opinion

RyanZ_MD

I agree

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