draw < lose or draw > lose?

It is obvious why a win is the best outcome in chess. What about a lose verse a draw? I'd take the lose any day. I feel like a draw is the worst thing that can happen in a chess game. Neither player progresses much and at least with a lose one could learn something new. I don't mind loosing, especially when I'm completely out played. I actually like it, my overall improvement is what i strive for. Its something that is cultivated in more than one game. What are your thoughts?

I think that you should stop quoting yourself. It's stupid.

I don't think it is a stupid question. question is in a "nearly equal" position do you have the nerves to be willing to lose or do you take the draw.

at the time I was playing otb I have seen a lot of players that settled for a draw even in a winning position because they were afraid to lose.

in otb team match it occured even more because with a draw you contributed to the team and some didn't have the nerves to play it out.

with a draw they could say "I did my part".

that is one thing that annoyed me with otb chess peoples lack of fighting spirit to win in won positions.

.5 was > 0, when I went to school. But that was a while ago. Maybe they changed it?

I am a pretty decent endgame player for my level. I love seeing the look on my opponents face, after I've turned a losing position onto a draw. Drives them crazy!

yes but do we really play chess to gather points.  Of course if you firmly believe the game is really a draw you should of course take the draw.

But if you can win and if you want chess to be some kind of sports you should try to win even if it cost the draw. fear of losing shouldn't be a deciding factor.

At top level chess most games are a draw. I dont think the majority of players would share your view.

A draw against a better ranked player is a very good result. I cannot think why you would think a loss is favourable to a draw in any situation.

Okay.

But what if my opponent is kicking my butt the entire game? And instead of rolling over and resigning, I keep fighting? And fighting? Until finally, many moves later, I secure the draw?

Would I have been better off tipping my king, 70 minutes earlier?

In my opinion the draw is the best possible outcome. A draw means that no one blundered, or at least that no one was able to punish the mistakes of the opposition. And it's more beautiful than seeing one side crushing another. By looking at the points one can say that win > draw > loss, but it's trivial. 

PS: I'm not a troll. Peter Leko is my hero.  

If this was the game, 59. Rb3 seems drawn.

Of course, playing for the win whenever possible, and when the win is impossible, try to draw. And when that is impossible, resign

yes at top level and they know what they are doing. but many chess players below top level especially lower rated players have lead them to believe that should also take a grandmaster draw. if the best do it it must be correct thing to do. I don't agree.

Let's say it's trivial arithmetic. Therefore we both are right.

Nothing like quoting horrific grammar from a country that speaks the language.

1. "What about a lose verse a draw?"

Uhm - Lose is NOT a noun, it's a VERB!  It's called a "loss"

And a verse is a few non-refrain lines in a song, or a sentence in the bible.  The word is "versus", or it can also be abbreviated by "v" or "vs".

2. "I'd take the lose any day."  Again, that's "loss"!

3. "Neither player progresses much and at least with a lose one could learn something new"

Again, it's "loss", and also, not all draws are a lack of progress.  Many wild tactical battles fizzle out to a dead draw.  Other positions are book draws, like Philidor's Draw, the Short-side Defense, or the Long-side Defense in the case of rook and pawn verses rook.

4. "I don't mind loosing, especially when I'm completely out played"

Uhm, it's "losing", not "loosing", and "outplayed" is one word!

5. "I actually like it, my overall improvement is what i strive for."

Run-on sentence, the comma should be a period.  This should be 2 sentences.  And "I" is always capitalized.

6. "Its something that is cultivated in more than one game."

Your "Its" needs an apostrophe.  The context of the word is the same as saying "it is", which is therefore a contraction and needs an apostrophe.  "Its", without an apostrophe, refers to posession.  The dog was chasing its tail.

7. "What are your thoughts?"

That your constant quoting of your own horrible grammar is doing nothing but showing off your stupidity!

Oh, and any reject would know that a draw is better than a loss any day!

Not "verses" but "versus".