Anyone over 2000 should be able to win a match vs the world champion if they're given rook odds, as long as the time control is classical (many hours for a game).
Carlsen could beat any engine in a match if he is given rook odds, as long as the time control is classical (many hours for a game).
How high Elo would be needed for a player to defeat Carlsen at rook odds (i. e. Carlsen missing the rook)?
How high Elo would be needed to defeat the world champion of chess engines at rook odds (again the champion engine missing the rook)?