Estimated Elo of a player vs puzzle rating?

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CheckmateMan2000
What puzzle rating would people be by default(100-1200)? Is a 1200 player in chess , 1700 in puzzles, or higher/lower…?
justbefair
CheckmateMan2000 wrote:
What puzzle rating would people be by default(100-1200)? Is a 1200 player in chess , 1700 in puzzles, or higher/lower…?

Puzzle ratings don't really correlate well to playing ratings.  They mostly reflect the amount of puzzles you have tried.

The puzzle leaderboard shows one guy with 65,000 points. Do you think he's 20 times as good as Magnus Carlsen?

CheckmateMan2000

You have a good point, because I kind of wanted to know if a puzzle rating of 2000 was average for a 1200 

Chuck639
CheckmateMan2000 wrote:

You have a good point, because I kind of wanted to know if a puzzle rating of 2000 was average for a 1200 

I’d say 2000 puzzles rating is solid and respectable at 1200 level of play.

I am 2400 rated puzzles and 1300 rapid.

Are you able to employ the tactics you are recognizing?

drmrboss

2200 bullet. 3000 puzzle rating!

Andrew67275
justbefair wrote:
CheckmateMan2000 wrote:
What puzzle rating would people be by default(100-1200)? Is a 1200 player in chess , 1700 in puzzles, or higher/lower…?

Puzzle ratings don't really correlate well to playing ratings.  They mostly reflect the amount of puzzles you have tried.

The puzzle leaderboard shows one guy with 65,000 points. Do you think he's 20 times as good as Magnus Carlsen?

 

the guy that was 65000 rated has not played any games

CheckmateMan2000

Yeah I’m able to recognize and see the different major sacrifices I have to make to checkmate/earn a position. Even though I was 2200 recently I wasn’t taking my puzzles seriously and dropped to 2060 meh.png

Chuck639
CheckmateMan2000 wrote:

Yeah I’m able to recognize and see the different major sacrifices I have to make to checkmate/earn a position. Even though I was 2200 recently I wasn’t taking my puzzles seriously and dropped to 2060

It’s nothing, I wouldn’t worry about it. I’ve tilted over 200 points before but you get them back eventually.

At this point, I try do my (25) per day a little faster to replicate a game environment, plus doing the puzzles daily helps exercise my mind.

Chuck639
little_guinea_pig wrote:
Chuck639 wrote:
CheckmateMan2000 wrote:

You have a good point, because I kind of wanted to know if a puzzle rating of 2000 was average for a 1200 

I’d say 2000 puzzles rating is solid and respectable at 1200 level of play.

I am 2400 rated puzzles and 1300 rapid.

Are you able to employ the tactics you are recognizing?

How are you guys so high in puzzles?

I'm 2400 puzzles as well but was 2200 blitz just a few days ago (and have over 2000 bullet and rapid...)

It came down to priorities and a plan set out by my coach.

I halted speed chess for almost two months to strip poor habits, focused on tactics, played the occasional rapid games and lots of analyzing.

Went from 2000-2400 within a month easily but now it’s getting difficult with my added seasonal work load.

I’m also working on middle game planning. Generally I open the game well and get favourable positions a d let the game slip away. Something I am working on at the moment.

The tactics do help with board vision and pattern recognition so I do them everyday to stay sharp. I’m not in a hurry to reach 1400 either which is funny because my opponents (1500-1700) took accuse me of cheating when I win convincingly.

Chests909

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smqed

and, for a new 900 elo player, what´s the normal/usual puzzle rating?

justbefair
smqed wrote:

and, for a new 900 elo player, what´s the normal/usual puzzle rating?

Did you read any of the thread?

Chuck639
smqed wrote:

and, for a new 900 elo player, what´s the normal/usual puzzle rating?

Add 1000 to get your puzzles rating.

smqed
justbefair escribió:
smqed wrote:

and, for a new 900 elo player, what´s the normal/usual puzzle rating?

Did you read any of the thread?

i did, and i see your point, but also my question makes sense, if you can recreate or use what u have learnt on puzzles into real games, this could make a sinergy and improve your overall eficicency if you understand openings and also if you dont have a loosing position, because, you could spot more tricky moves or do it faster, so my question is, if you have this case where you can aply what you learnt. What would be the correlation? (im not native and im studying english, sorry for the mistakes).

smqed
Chuck639 escribió:
smqed wrote:

and, for a new 900 elo player, what´s the normal/usual puzzle rating?

Add 1000 to get your puzzles rating.

ok ty happy.png

Maestroplease

Some sites puzzles are harder then others. On the other hand time is a relevant factor . An unrestricted time puzzle is worth less then one where e.g. 1 minute is alloted. Some sites substract points for the wrong answer, others reward you less if you take more time to resolve, yet others substract you points, even if the solution is right but you surpassed the alloted time. To give you an example : on lichess I'm 2450 ELO, on Chesstempo I'm 1780 and my FIDE rating is 1797. On the vanished EMRALD tactics site, I at best was 1650 ELO when I was in top condition, but could sink to 1400 very easily if I'd skipp it for a few weeks. It was very restricted in time and you nearly had to play on guts feeling  If you didn't you'd loose points as if you'd answered wrong. Still I'm the same person. There is a huge difference when on one site you'd get 1550 (time compared to avg resolution time),  yet another 1780 (unrestricted but problems/diagrams well calibrated to actual players ELO, and yet another site where I got 2450 (lichess, with time unrestricted puzzles coming from bullet/speed/rapid chess games on the same site).

 

This is why ratings on puzzles do not correlate well with actual strength (besides tens of other reasons). The good thing is, it keeps your chess reasoning and tactical ability current. Indirectly it improves your skills over the board or at least make sure you are in a more or less trained condition. If you don't have much time to study, analyse games or openings or train whilst playing serious games (over the internet) , ... then resolving puzzles with relative few time, in a repetitive manner  makes sure you are in a general better shape. Its like morning excercises for 5 or 10 minutes. Resolving e.g. 5 puzzles a day is exactly that  and all it takes to keep your focus. Attention resolving puzzles in an intensive manner for 1 week and not touching them for 3 weeks does the same as a runner, who runs one week in a month, then does not run for 3 weeks in a row.

 

Chests909

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Diresquirl237

lol i'm 1300 in puzzles and 400 in rapid and 500 in blitz

samtile

I've gone to 2200 in a couple of days here, and lichess 2400 took a few weeks. But here I can solve even the harder ones at my level in a couple of minutes and getting to 2200 was easy. Lichess ones are seriously hard, getting to 2400 was really tough. Like some puzzles took 20 minutes to solve. 

Jimemy

Im 1500 in blitz and Rapid and 2200 in puzzles. I tend to prior doing more puzzles a bit faster. But I mean in a Rapid/Blitz game I will not have 5 min per move. So therefore i want to be able to solve puzzles fast.