First Move Advantage Exists I Can Solve for It

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JummetJay

It is an indisputable fact that the person who moves first has a higher chance of winning. Chess.com itself posts statistics on this. I propose we solve by giving the person who moves second bishop odds every single game. This will help counteract this toxic situation which favors the person who moves first.

Rancid-Knight

Lol

JummetJay

Help this needs to be fixed let’s raise awareness 

YellowVenom

Fella, this is hardly a groundbreaking revelation... In virtually every turn-based game, he/she who goes first has the advantage. And nothing needs to be done, first because the advantage is small, and second, on average you'll spend the same number of games playing as White than as Black.

Fire
INeedBaguette wrote:

It is an indisputable fact that the person who moves first has a higher chance of winning. Chess.com itself posts statistics on this. I propose we solve by giving the person who moves second bishop odds every single game. This will help counteract this toxic situation which favors the person who moves first.

somebody has to go first in all board games. But this is not how chess is. maybe little known to you, but chess is an ancient game. Chess.com are not in charge of chess rules, and I dont think they will ever change. Also a bishop odds make black better off, so whats your logic there? doing that will create bigger odds. 

alphaous

What's it with these ridiculous troll threads lately suggesting dumb ideas?

Fire

this guy is gonna make a fix en passant bug one soon

JummetJay
YellowVenom wrote:

Fella, this is hardly a groundbreaking revelation... In virtually every turn-based game, he/she who goes first has the advantage. And nothing needs to be done, first because the advantage is small, and second, on average you'll spend the same number of games playing as White than as Black.

A commonly played game called Hearthstone gives reparations to those who go second to counteract this toxic first move advantage. The solution exists, why deny it?

tygxc

#8
The first move advantage means nothing for real.
King's Gambit is good for black, so one pawn is more than the first move advantage.
See figure 4 (d)
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.04374.pdf 

Yurinclez2

Unless it allows you to punch first

Moving first does not seem to give you  advantage

JummetJay
Yurinclez2 wrote:

Unless it allows you to punch first

Moving first does not seem to give you  advantage

The stats do the talking

tygxc

#11
"The stats do the talking"
https://www.iccf.com/event?id=66745

136 games = 127 draws + 6 white wins + 3 black wins

JummetJay
tygxc wrote:

#11
"The stats do the talking"
https://www.iccf.com/event?id=66745

136 games = 127 draws + 6 white wins + 3 black wins

100% higher chance to win on light sounds balanced

blueemu
INeedBaguette wrote:
tygxc wrote:

#11
"The stats do the talking"
https://www.iccf.com/event?id=66745

136 games = 127 draws + 6 white wins + 3 black wins

100% higher chance to win on light sounds balanced

So you're drawing conclusions on the basis of nine decisive games?

Weak.

TheNeogotiator
Literally the stupidest thing I’ve heard all day. ideal play ends in a draw. You are a sub 1000 player with little to no experience. Learn to defend yourself better instead of worrying about who plays first. Learn a key concept such as initiative. I’m tired of people complaining about how white is better.
TheNeogotiator
Have another bagel
Tacomeats

Every chess.com game should start with a virtual rock, paper, scissors game to decide who gets white smh