FIscher vs. Anand ?!
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SmyslovFan
Jan 11, 2013
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Jan 11, 2013
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Estragon wrote:
Whose fault is it that we never found out?
Anand won the World Junior title in 1987; Fischer was still 44 and should have been in his prime. Anand won his first major GM event at Reggio Emilio in 1991, Fischer was 48. Anand was everywhere playing in Europe in those days and since, Fischer wouldn't have had to look hard to find him - or Karpov or Kasparov or Ivanchuk or Shirov or Beliavsky, for that matter.
They never met because Fischer wouldn't play. It's no one else's fault.
So whenever someone tells me what Fischer "would have" done against these other players of the same era, I know they are just hapless fans engaging in silly fantasy. Their hero "could have" named his fees and conditions to play in any event from 1972 on, but "would not."
Not true. Fischer and Anand did meet two years before Fischer's death. Anand has discussed their meeting in several interviews.
Jan 11, 2013
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Fischer would have stipulated a match condition that since it was Fischer Random the prize money should also be random. So any win would get a Monte-Carlo algorithm generated bonus of 10 cents to a million dollars.
But after 2 games Fischer would end the match because he was "fleeing" the Sheriff who tortured him in the Pasadena Gaol.
If they played today, Fischer would be dead.
Not sure about Anand, really. However, there is no argument that Kasparov would have destroyed Fischer. None.
We are comparing two era's which is not quite right!!!
Anand is best
BOBBY FISCHER IS THE BEST
Feb 11, 2024
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#29
I am going with Bobby Fischer for the win. Anand himself thinks that Fischer was the GOAT.
Fisher in his prime.... vs Anand in his prime... No contest.. Fisher!
Fisher may have been the strongest chess player to live... Yes even stronger the Carlsen.
Most of you are way to young to know the actual history of Fisher. How the Soviet Chess machines in multiple tournaments over a decade leading up to the world championship, pitted all the strongest Soviet GMs against him. To keep him from winning, in tournaments ... they would play specific openings, specific endgames.. probing for his weaknesses. He had very few seconds to work on opening prep.. (he trusted very few)
Fisher wins the world championship ... then disappears, literally! Became a ghost... adding to the legend even more. From 1975 to 1992 no one knew where he was or what had happened to him. In America, to the Chess world, Fisher had become a mythic demi god... Karpov has stated several times that instead of Kasparov, Fisher would have been his rival. Maybe... Maybe not...
both Karpov, and Kasparov probably didn't want the return of Fisher. I should say... a return of Fisher in his prime. Both would have been relegated to 2nd place in tournaments with Fisher getting all the accolades and all the endorsements.
As we get older.. In Chess, our ability to focus and concentrate diminishes... in 1992 Fisher was past his prime.. his opening prep was dated and his playing was not at the top level
and lets not forget, when Fisher resurfaced the term "insane" or "mental disorder" was used wherever he went... it was clear he didn't have all his oars in the water
SIXGUNS wrote:
I am a big fan of Anand. However, anybody that thinks he could have beat Fischer at 960 chess is just dreaming. Nobody, I repeat, nobody had a greater chess mind than Bobby. In a 12-game match, Bobby would have won 9 to 3. -SIX
mikhail tal has a winning streak of 4-0 against Bobby