How often do you come across stallers & what to do?

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notmtwain
finnintrov wrote:
Just got a staller who let me wait for 35 min to get my win. He is not my first but they sure are annoying.

Do you report them? (does reporting even work)

Do you wait with them or resign the game so you can use your device?

Do higher elo players do less of this?

Yes, you should report. Yes, reporting works.

Look at how many accounts were closed last month for abuse. (see the monthly report)

https://www.chess.com/news/view/chess-com-month-in-review-february-2020

You are playing a sixty minute time control. Why? Do you or your opponents routinely use most of the time? No. Well, then, why sign up for such slow controls? A lot of people who use those controls have bad connections and need the extra time to reconnect.

allgoodpeople23

I don't understand. It's not against the rules to use all of the time allotted in a time-control game, so what is the point of "reporting?" What rules have been broken to report? Wouldn't an easier solution be to play games with shorter time controls?

notmtwain
jackchilders wrote:

I don't understand. It's not against the rules to use all of the time allotted in a time-control game, so what is the point of "reporting?" What rules have been broken to report? Wouldn't an easier solution be to play games with shorter time controls?

If someone is clearly lost, just letting the clock run is unsportsmanlike.

 

whiskers1234

That isnt very good

allgoodpeople23

Well, I shouldn't even be commenting, because I only play daily games, so I don't have an iron in this fire. But this comes across as a little whiny to me. What were you going to do if the game were close and your opponent were using all of his 60 minutes? Presumably you wouldn't be able to use your phone in that situation either. I'm not sure why anyone would want a 60 minute time control. If you want that much time to make a move, why not switch to daily chess? That way you can make your move and come back to it later.

Zardorian
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, to those who think that stalling is not abusive—that there’s nothing wrong with it—what’s your opinion then on naming these people on these forums? If you truly believe there’s nothing wrong with it, then you should have no problem with naming them. That way people who don’t want to put up with stalling can block them. This is the main reason I play one minute games. And by the way, when you report people, “stalling” is one of the options to choose to report on. So apparently the moderators agree that this is a reportable offense.
Zardorian
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Laskersnephew
jackchilders wrote:

I don't understand. It's not against the rules to use all of the time allotted in a time-control game, so what is the point of "reporting?" What rules have been broken to report? Wouldn't an easier solution be to play games with shorter time controls?

Surely you understand the difference between using all your time and deliberately sitting there refusing to move until your clock runs out. In the second case, you have actually stopped playing, or thinking. You are only "using" your time as a spiteful gesture. It violates the basic tenets of good sportsmanship.

WSama

I usually buy something, when I come across a staller.

FrancoisHaas
My question is related but specific to 1 day games (probably the other formats as well); what is a reasoning behind this ability to take a holiday and freeze the game? Surely if you opt into playing a one day game that is the time allotted to it?? I’ve been going with a single one day game for over 2 days... if I wanted to play a 2 or 10 day game that is what I would have opted in for.
ThrillerFan
long_quach wrote:

Yahoo used to have a 10 minutes maximum per move rule.

I've been telling chess.com to institute that since forever.

 

That is idiotic!  If you have 60 minutes for the game, there is no rule against using 20 or 30 minutes for a single move.  I have done it myself on other sites, like when I used to play the 45 5 on Sundays at ICC a couple of decades ago.

 

If Black has 1 legal move, and he has 38 minutes left, and it is mate in 1 for White, yes, Black is being a douche bag and his account should be suspended for 3 months from playing anything longer than G/5.

 

However, if Black has 38 minutes in a complicated position (endgames can be complicated) and he wants to spend 27 of those 38 remaining minutes, sit down, shut up, wait the 27 minutes, and deal with it or else quit playing G/60.

llamonade2
ThrillerFan wrote:
long_quach wrote:

Yahoo used to have a 10 minutes maximum per move rule.

I've been telling chess.com to institute that since forever.

 

That is idiotic!  If you have 60 minutes for the game, there is no rule against using 20 or 30 minutes for a single move.  I have done it myself on other sites, like when I used to play the 45 5 on Sundays at ICC a couple of decades ago.

 

If Black has 1 legal move, and he has 38 minutes left, and it is mate in 1 for White, yes, Black is being a douche bag and his account should be suspended for 3 months from playing anything longer than G/5.

 

However, if Black has 38 minutes in a complicated position (endgames can be complicated) and he wants to spend 27 of those 38 remaining minutes, sit down, shut up, wait the 27 minutes, and deal with it or else quit playing G/60.

As I recall, it was an option in Yahoo chess. You could uncheck a box if you didn't want to play with the 10 minute thing.

llamonade2
finnintrov wrote:
Just got a staller who let me wait for 35 min to get my win. He is not my first but they sure are annoying.
 
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Do higher elo players do less of this Șhȋt?

Higher elo players tend not to play 60 minute games online.

(And a big F U to chess.com for red bannering me for quoting someone else's dirty language)

WSama

Ladies and sirs, it is perfectly legal to use up your allotted time in a live chess game...

There are no official rules governing time-controls as far as the game of chess is concerned - that is all decided by the event hosts/federations/etc. 

WSama

There are of course revenues to curb unsportsmanlike behaviour. A statistical badge on one's gaming profile is one such measure.

Laskersnephew
WSama wrote:

Ladies and sirs, it is perfectly legal to use up your allotted time in a live chess game...

There are no official rules governing time-controls as far as the game of chess is concerned - that is all decided by the event hosts/federations/etc. 

Almost every host has rules concerning sportsmanship, and just sitting there spitefully letting your time run out will get you banned everywhere. Once a player has quit trying and quit thinking, and is just letting his time run out in order to inconvenience his opponent, you could argue that he is no longer using his allotted time in any chess sense

Laskersnephew

Yes, a ten minute rule is a bad idea. In OTB chess I have spent more that 10 minutes on a move many times--and blundered anyway more than once! But I don't think it's that difficult to tell the difference between a player stewing over his next move and a spiteful jerk who just stops moving and lets his time run out, just to make your playing experience worse

allgoodpeople23

I need to apologize. I was mistakenly comparing daily chess, where you have a maximum of 24 hours to make each move, with the shorter time controls which I now realize involves, not a maximum amount of time to make each move, but rather a maximum about of time to make ALL your moves. 

So now I see how stalling in these types of games CAN be an issue, and that my previous comments about it were not relevant.

Laskersnephew

No need to apologize. God knows I have trouble keeping these various threads straight

Zardorian
One related problem I’ve encountered is, sometimes people actually fake run out the clock… They actually are hoping you’ll walk away and forget about the game and then they move like at the last 30 seconds because then they’ll win. Talk about sick. So you have multiple possibilities going on: people might be indeed taking a long time to move, or they’re running out the clock out of spite, or they’re running the clock right to the end so that they can get a pathetic win.

RedgirlZ, I play exclusively on my iPhone, and unfortunately no, you can’t play two games at once on your phone, at least not on the iPhone. I wish you could; then I’d play longer games.