is chess better than go ?

Nope. Love both games. And both of them are more complex than the human brain can master. But as I have put many more hours in learning chess compared to learning go, I am better at chess, so chess will be my personal favorite.

IMO chess has a very good balance of long term elements (strategy) and short term elements (tactics).

I see go as much harder for the long term elements and shogi as much harder for the short term, but they trade away one type for the other.

Different games will appeal to different people. I probably would have loved go, but I was born in America, and there were basically no tournaments. As a teenager I consciously chose chess over go because books and tournaments were close to me.

I ask that because someone  said that Japan and China they have a better board game's culture. So they invented Go and shôgi who are more complex. While Chess is more a occidental game and our culture is more focused on fun and not to the complexity of a game. Do you agree ?

And compared to Chess, Go as a bigger board game. So for me Go is not more complex than Chess, just it as more possibilty. And more possibility mean not more complex. If you play on a 8x8 go board, I don't think this will be more complex than Chess.

This person said also that in the futur, go will be most popular than Chess but I don't know how you can say that. Probably you can help me to understand.

Yes, I saw that topic.

Frankly it wasn't worth commenting on because its premise was too stupid.

It's more complex in terms of brute forcing a solution, but it's not more complex for humans.

There might be 100 legal moves on your turn, but as many as 95 of them are stupid and no one would ever consider them, so it's pointless to say the board is large. A strong chess player chooses between only a few reasonable moves, and it's the same for a go player.

It doesn't matter which is popular, they're both great games.

I think they're dissimilar enough that one will never replace the other.

Then there is always checkers!

Yes.  Both games are too complex for the human brain, but it is all the unique, different pieces, that move in different ways, that make chess what it is.  It's like trying to get all kinds of different musical instruments to perform a symphony for you, while the composer across from you is trying to ruin everything... 

Thank you for you arguments my friend

Know I have a question very personal, which of the tree game that I cited you thing is the more elegant and/or complet ? 

Yes

I don't know what complete means in a game (?)

Aesthetically go is a lot more fun to look at (stone/wood, circle/square) but I'm not an artist, and that doesn't have much to do with the game

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But I think one thing that makes go better is there are no draws. If I play 1/1000th better than my opponent, I might win a go game, but to win a chess game I have to play quite a lot better than my opponent, otherwise it will just be a draw.

And also a go game lasts for more moves. I like that there can be small independent skirmishes that slowly evolve into an interconnected larger battle. I have a more strategic mindset, so a game like that is more appealing to me. I suppose what it loses is the short term tactical fireworks of games like shogi and international chess, and some people wouldn't like that trade.

I'm a very weak go player, but for English speakers who are interested in learning more about the game, check out Nick Sibicky's videos on youtube.

I'm not sure why you're suggesting complexity is a good thing. A lot of the beauty and wonder of chess lies in its simplicity. If you don't understand that then I'm afraid you don't really appreciate the game at all. 

To be honest with you that person is just talking nonsense. A lot of people have a major drive to distinguish themselves from their peers or to seek attention. However they don't always have the ability to do this naturally and find themselves without interesting things to say. So they latch onto exotic ideas like this instead, and imagine themselves as being cultured, well-read, well- traveled and to appreciate the finer things, and that they have something interesting to say, that they have the inner scoop and are superior to the common plebs of the western world, when it's really all a bunch of nonsense.    

You see this in many different areas - mostly among young people but sometimes older adults as well. So instead of watching regular tv shows they'll watch anime. Instead of liking a mainstream band everyone likes they have to like some eastern european band noone has ever heard of. They may read opinion articles in the newspaper, but they'll be jerking off to how they have books of some Swedish philosopher most people have never heard of and namedrop him and his views in how they think is a subtle way in conversations.  

It's fine to talk about how you really like go or even think it's far better than chess. But acting like there is some objective way it's better is plain idiocy. 

And I suppose I'm selling chess short a little there.

It's not as if tactics and strategy happen in isolation. Part of what makes chess great is you have to simultaneously balance the short term tactics with the long term considerations. Sometimes this makes for incredibly rich positions where tons of precise combinations have to be evaluated not only for their short term gains and losses but also through the lens of all the endgames that arise... and what makes this so much fun is there are often completely different values. For example in the opening a center pawn is best, but in an endgame your flank pawns can be the most valuable.

So there are all these dynamic exchange rates with short and long term consequences, and it's a lot of fun when these ideas mix together, and you have to resolve things that can seem like contradictions in value.

I like Chess more than Go

I guess your total life experience on the net has been... roughly 3 minutes?

More like 3 seconds

Touched a nerve did I? 

Thanks 19LxxxVii. 

Not really. I've been here longer than you have. I remember you before your mute. Years ago. You've always been emotional and irrational.

The post @19lxxxvii quotes is just more of the same. You rant and rave with scarcely any logic.

What the hell are you talking about? 

I made a good post based on years or decades of observations. If you disagree with it that's fine, no need to come in attacking me. Your own comments suggested you thought something that is not unlike it yourself. I never had any issues with you. It was only after 19lxxxvii said it was one of the greatest things that you suddenly seemed to get cross and come out with all this.  

Out of all the people on this site who make sloppy posts and rant and rave and you're going to pick out me and say I post "with scarcely any logic" eh???   

He thought your post was good and actually so did I, it was a decent post. And you're just coming in here attacking me out of nowhere saying he was online for three minutes first and now this.   

Clearly you're the one with problems about being "emotional and irrational".