Getting NM Title through USCF online?

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jbent02

If you get to 2200 on your USCF online rating, will you receive a NM title?

AndrewSmith

https://www.chess.com/club/uschess-members-only

This club can help and answer, generally titles are through fide and that's over the board, 

Martin_Stahl
jbent02 wrote:

If you get to 2200 on your USCF online rating, will you receive a NM title?

 

No, online ratings don't provide the NM title. Only OTB regular rated play can 

Martin_Stahl
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

Ratings alone don't give you titles. Just like you don't just earn an M.D. because you have a lot of medical knowledge. You have to qualify for it and get granted that title.

 

Actually, for US Chess, getting a 2200 or higher OTB regular rating automatically provides the title. Nothing else needed.

jbent02
Martin_Stahl wrote:
jbent02 wrote:

If you get to 2200 on your USCF online rating, will you receive a NM title?

 

No, online ratings don't provide the NM title. Only OTB regular rated play can 

Okay thanks

NobleElevator
jessicatheprodigee wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

Ratings alone don't give you titles. Just like you don't just earn an M.D. because you have a lot of medical knowledge. You have to qualify for it and get granted that title.

 

Actually, for US Chess, getting a 2200 or higher OTB regular rating automatically provides the title. Nothing else needed.


Oh, I stand corrected then. I guess the qualification thing is for GMs.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the only FIDE titles that require norms (as well as rating mostly) are IM and GM.

x-0460907528
jessicatheprodigee wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

Ratings alone don't give you titles. Just like you don't just earn an M.D. because you have a lot of medical knowledge. You have to qualify for it and get granted that title.

 

Actually, for US Chess, getting a 2200 or higher OTB regular rating automatically provides the title. Nothing else needed.


Oh, I stand corrected then. I guess the qualification thing is for GMs.

and IMs. and FMs. But not CMs. CMs qualify via ratings only.

Deranged
pawnstar1957 wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

Ratings alone don't give you titles. Just like you don't just earn an M.D. because you have a lot of medical knowledge. You have to qualify for it and get granted that title.

 

Actually, for US Chess, getting a 2200 or higher OTB regular rating automatically provides the title. Nothing else needed.


Oh, I stand corrected then. I guess the qualification thing is for GMs.

and IMs. and FMs. But not CMs. CMs qualify via ratings only.

Nope. Only IMs and GMs require norms.

FMs, CMs and NMs are automatic once you hit the rating threshold.

Martin_Stahl
Deranged wrote:
pawnstar1957 wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

Ratings alone don't give you titles. Just like you don't just earn an M.D. because you have a lot of medical knowledge. You have to qualify for it and get granted that title.

 

Actually, for US Chess, getting a 2200 or higher OTB regular rating automatically provides the title. Nothing else needed.


Oh, I stand corrected then. I guess the qualification thing is for GMs.

and IMs. and FMs. But not CMs. CMs qualify via ratings only.

Nope. Only IMs and GMs require norms.

FMs, CMs and NMs are automatic once you hit the rating threshold.

 

Well, CMs and FMs require the payment of the title fee as well, so it's not exactly automatic

x-0460907528
Deranged wrote:
pawnstar1957 wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

Ratings alone don't give you titles. Just like you don't just earn an M.D. because you have a lot of medical knowledge. You have to qualify for it and get granted that title.

 

Actually, for US Chess, getting a 2200 or higher OTB regular rating automatically provides the title. Nothing else needed.


Oh, I stand corrected then. I guess the qualification thing is for GMs.

and IMs. and FMs. But not CMs. CMs qualify via ratings only.

Nope. Only IMs and GMs require norms.

FMs, CMs and NMs are automatic once you hit the rating threshold.

youre mixing apples and oranges, @deranged. CMs, FMs, IMs and GMs are FIDE titles. NM are titles from national federations and requirements vary from one federation to another. As for FIDE, CM is the only title that is awarded based solely on rating. so...nope to you. you are wrong.

Deranged
pawnstar1957 wrote:
Deranged wrote:
pawnstar1957 wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

Ratings alone don't give you titles. Just like you don't just earn an M.D. because you have a lot of medical knowledge. You have to qualify for it and get granted that title.

 

Actually, for US Chess, getting a 2200 or higher OTB regular rating automatically provides the title. Nothing else needed.


Oh, I stand corrected then. I guess the qualification thing is for GMs.

and IMs. and FMs. But not CMs. CMs qualify via ratings only.

Nope. Only IMs and GMs require norms.

FMs, CMs and NMs are automatic once you hit the rating threshold.

youre mixing apples and oranges, @deranged. CMs, FMs, IMs and GMs are FIDE titles. NM are titles from national federations and requirements vary from one federation to another. As for FIDE, CM is the only title that is awarded based solely on rating. so...nope to you. you are wrong.

I'm aware that NM is a national title and the rest are all FIDE titles.

But I stand by my point that NM, CM and FM only require you to reach a rating threshold and do not require norms (CM and FM do require paying a fee though, as @Martin_Stahl pointed out, so they're not exactly "automatic" in that sense).

The requirements for each title are:

NM = 2200+ USCF rating

CM = 2200+ FIDE rating

FM = 2300+ FIDE rating

IM = 2400+ FIDE rating + 3 x IM norms

GM = 2500+ FIDE rating + 3 x GM norms

You don't need any norms for the FM title. You just need to hit 2300+ FIDE rating.

x-0460907528

sure. you are aware after i informed you.

jetoba

From the FIDE handbook (fees are not included here)

1.3  Titles may be gained by achieving a published or interim rating at some time or other (see 1.53a) having at that time played at least 30 rated games:
 
1.31  FIDE Master ≥2300
1.32  Candidate Master ≥2200
1.33  Women FIDE Master ≥2100
1.34  Women Candidate Master ≥2000

For GM, IM, WGM and WIM there are also norm requirements.

1.48
Performance Rating (Rp)
In order to achieve a norm, a player must perform at a level at least of that shown below:

title    Min lvl     after rounding
GM      2599.5    2600
IM       2449.5     2450
WGM  2399.5     2400
WIM   2249.5      2250

1.53
To have achieved at some time or other a rating as follows:
GM≥2500
IM≥2400
WGM ≥2300
WIM≥2200

 

Finally, FIDE does allow direct titles (that bypass norm requirements) for doing very well in certain significant tournaments.

 

Direct title (automatic title) is a title gained by achieving a certain place or result in a tournament. For example, winning, or achieving a result ≥50 percent in a tournament. On application by the player’s federation and confirmation by the Qualification Commission, such titles are awarded automatically by FIDE.

chessislife79

You can. According to http://www.glicko.net/ratings/titles.pdf, you can gain an online USCF title from online regular ratings. Online blitz ratings and online quick ratings are invalid.

Perkons22
USCF CM and NM titles are different from FIDE titles of CM, IM, GM, etc.

USCF now has “category” titles pertaining to class D - A (4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st category). All USCF category and CM, NM titles require norms now. USCF has the Life Master and Senior Life Master title for NMs, Senior Life Master the highest USCF title able to be obtained through achieving required norms with an OTB rating of 2400 or more. The titles are no longer automatically awarded by rating achievement alone:

http://www.glicko.net/ratings/titles.pdf
Justanotherfolkh

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