Grabbing the Queen for Queening

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sco-ish

I've noticed that in alot of games that I've played and seen myself, their is this thing where when a player is winning and/or has a passed pawn or a potential one, they will usually grab a queen and intentionally make it known to their opponent that they are doing so and hold it or put it next to them, despite having more than enough time on the clock, I saw Lagno doing it to Yifan despite having over 5 minutes and many opponents have done it to me before including this dude who still had 40 minutes on his clock plus increment.

Do other people notice this rather in my opinion un-sportsmanship act or is it just me?

Lagomorph

Do you mean they are are trying to force an exchange of queens ? It is very unclear from your post.

If so, what is unsportsmanlike about that?

ggamerman

It's psychological warfare - nothing more, nothing less. Seeing your opponent make an action that implies they are about to queen does two things:

- it reminds you he/she has a winning position, which in many people causes a defeatist mental attitude.

- it makes you start panicking because you irrationally fear the opponent's all-seeing eye (i.e. the opponent has some sort of queening tactic you don't see).

It's not sportsmanlike, but in my opinion it's no worse than just being a scary-looking person.

sco-ish

@Lagomorph

They are grabbing a queen that is not on the board, this is usually done in a queenless game.

Lagomorph
sco-ish wrote:

@Lagomorph

They are grabbing a queen that is not on the board, this is usually done in a queenless game.

Ok I understand...physically holding a "spare" queen in OTB play.

bobbyDK
ggamerman skrev:

It's psychological warfare - nothing more, nothing less. Seeing your opponent make an action that implies they are about to queen does two things:

- it reminds you he/she has a winning position, which in many people causes a defeatist mental attitude.

- it makes you start panicking because you irrationally fear the opponent's all-seeing eye (i.e. the opponent has some sort of queening tactic you don't see).

It's not sportsmanlike, but in my opinion it's no worse than just being a scary-looking person.

yes and the threat is stronger than the execution.

those that sit with the queen in the hand may have other plans than to move the pawn.

I think in those cases if you have no intention of moving the pawn it is very unsportsmanlike.

Like setting up a trap that appear to hang a piece and sit and act with your body language as if you blundered. same thing.

MSC157

I love to do that. 7/10 I don't queen then. :P

Pulpofeira

Why don't grab a knight to add more confusion?

SilentKnighte5

lol@ "unsportsmanlike"

SilentKnighte5
Pulpofeira wrote:

Why don't grab a knight to add more confusion?

Grab a king.

bobbyDK
Fiveofswords skrev:

i dont see why its unsportsmanlike. If your brain explodes because your opponent sees potential of queening and is preparing for it then i tihnk you are too delicate to live on earth.

I have played otb tournament more frequent than many. still I don't think a player should do such a thing.

I laugh inside if people hold their queen. I think it is a ridiculous action.

play the board not the opponent.

Prudentia

I've had something similar to that happen to me before.  My opponent had a far advanced pawn, and went ahead and grabbed a queen and slid it nearer to him.  He didn't hold it, but it was obvious to me a few moves before he did that that a pawn was going to promote anyway.  Not a very big deal tbh. 

Pulpofeira
Once Kasparov did the exact opposite during a game against Karpov. His pawn got the 8th rank and he simply left it there, taking as sure his rival was forced to capture the new queen. Karpov found it very annoying.
vrahul_14

it doesnt matter anyway.

Or maybe ur opponent is confident of a win(probably) with the queening And is tryna remind u about the advanced pawn

vrahul_14

want something different.

Why dont u do him a favour by passing him the queen instead when promotion is nearing

Till_98

huh? When I take a queen then obviously because I want to queen my pawn. What iss wrong with that? You have to get the queen soon or later anyway when you need it. I play much OTB and most players Do that and its NOT unsportsmanlike...

Oraoradeki
 
 
TBentley
Pulpofeira wrote:
Once Kasparov did the exact opposite during a game against Karpov. His pawn got the 8th rank and he simply left it there, taking as sure his rival was forced to capture the new queen. Karpov found it very annoying.

He said, "Queen!" (which would have been check) and started Karpov's clock while the arbiter was getting a queen. Karpov captured a knight with his queen, and Kasparov said he was in check. Karpov said, "From what? It might be a bishop on d1." Karpov got two minutes added to his clock, but Kasparov eventually won. (the game is http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1067319)

MNMSkyBlue

No he means that he grabs the spare Q (not on the comp, its face to face), and makes you extremely nervous about Queening becuase he's so excited.

Pulpofeira
TBentley escribió:
Pulpofeira wrote:
Once Kasparov did the exact opposite during a game against Karpov. His pawn got the 8th rank and he simply left it there, taking as sure his rival was forced to capture the new queen. Karpov found it very annoying.

He said, "Queen!" (which would have been check) and started Karpov's clock while the arbiter was getting a queen. Karpov captured a knight with his queen, and Kasparov said he was in check. Karpov said, "From what? It might be a bishop on d1." Karpov got two minutes added to his clock, but Kasparov eventually won. (the game is http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1067319)

Very interesting! I didn't know all those details.