Hans Niemann Is Innocent and Has Been Reinstated

Chess.com has admitted Hans Niemann is innocent (he has never cheated in any OTB games) and has finally reinstated him. Their claims that he cheated in over 100 online games are nonsense because why would they reinstate him if they know he cheated in that many games on this site? The reality is Chess.com was just going along with Magnus regardless of the actual evidence which is why Hans was banned in the first place despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

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@GothamChess needs to make a video about this.

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We all assume he don’t do it again : wink wink :

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That seems unlikely. How could chess.com "admit" Hans has never cheated in any OTB game? There is no possible way they would have any control or knowledge of that. They could suspect he's never cheated, but they certainly can't "admit" it because they were not personally monitoring every OTB game he's ever played.

Probably what happened is Hans agreed not to cheat in any more online games and chess.com accepted that agreement. If that's what it was, we'll see if he keeps his word.

He agreed to NOT CHEAT ANYMORE LOL

We all assume Carlsen and Kasparov won't cheat again also: wink wink:

You should probably come up with better examples if you want to compare. Did Magnus cheat? Or did someone else suggest a move without his input or encouragement? Magnus did not ask anyone for help or assistance did he? And after someone made a suggestion, should Magnus unhink or unhear what was said? What were his options?

It's probably also important to note that even though Magnus did nothing to promote or encourage outside assistance he did not accept any money he would have won because of what someone ELSE did. If anything you are providing a good example of a stand up guy and doing the right thing. Quite the opposite of what Hans did.

Source?

Remember the Leave Brittney Alone guy?

Like a Pharisee with his nose stuck up in the air thinking he is better than everyone else, you wish to condemn someone for past offenses with no sense of forgiveness. You can see what you want to see. Cheating is cheating regardless of whether it is Carlsen, Kasparov or anyone else.

If you want to put a scarlet C on Niemann’s forehead for the rest of his life with the attitude of “once a cheater always a cheater” then how many lies have you told in your lifetime or taken something that didn’t belong to you? You should be treated as a liar and a thief for the rest of your life if that is how you want to treat Niemann. We are all human and that includes you. Why don’t you say “once an obnoxious drunk always an obnoxious drunk” which one could describe Carlsen as at times when flipping people off on video?

“There is someone I love, even though I don’t approve of what he does. There is someone I accept, though some of his thoughts and actions revolt me. There is someone I forgive, though he hurts the people I love most. That person is me.” C.S. Lewis

Using an engine at a fair event is like shooting one with a gun in the head only!! I think Neiman dont use his secret tool too often. Anyhow despite my nonsensitive rating I feel there is a big cheater there... maybe fide uses code morse to play with Carlsen along

I knew it. Magnus just has an ego problem.

Except Hans cheated. Magnus and Kasparov did not. That's the difference.

I would forgive Hans if he never did it again. But what did he do? He did it again. So it's a lot harder this time to forgive. It's going to take a lot longer. Some day, after he's shown he can play honestly we'll see. But for now there are obviously reasons to be skeptical.

The examples you gave in those videos are something every chess player should see. Magnus was given outside assistance, he didn't ask for it or seek it. And again, he did not accept any money from what he would have earned. That is something Hans could learn from. Kasparov also did not cheat. It appears he did take his hand off the piece, which ordinarily completes the move. But taking the hand off and then putting it back on and moving somewhere else isn't against the rules. It's only against the rules IF the opposing player calls it out. When she made her move she acknowledged that Kasparov was OK in what he did. It's her duty to bring the issue up, not Kasparovs. She failed to do that, thus no rule violation occurred. No cheating.

If we are going to invoke whataboutism, at least provide a legitimate example.

@Jenium source: trust me bro

Thank you for proving my point.

Welcome back Hans !🎉Ignore all the petty-minded haters.

No, you can read about this from chess.com's official statement: https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/chess-com-concludes-legal-dispute-with-hans-niemann-niemann-to-return-to-chess-com

chess.com stands by their October 2022 report on Hans Niemann. However, this isn't about his online play on chess.com; the cheating allegations were mostly in regards to the Sinquefield Cup where Hans defeated Magnus OTB. This OTB tournament has nothing to do with chess.com, so of course they can't prove cheating here; this was a FIDE tournament and FIDE's job.

Hans Niemann was not innocent online; that much is simply fact, but this is about OTB and maybe he was innocent, or maybe he wasn't. It doesn't really matter that much now. I'm simply glad to see that all parties involved have come to an agreement and seem to be moving forward.