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SpareMyKing2019
Started chess in April and I (accidentally) said to my father that I will beat him by the end of the year. I spoke waaaay too soon. Thinking of getting lessons and tutor. Been reading on the forum also. Anyone with any experiences with online lessons/tutor, live tutor etc? That can chime in with some advice? Thanks in advance. As of now, OTB, my father spanks me 95% of the time, consistently!
GMPatzer

What is your Dads rating it might be practically impossible to do with in a year?

Suggest you might want to purchase a diamond membership 

and find a local chess club in your area and play and hung out with stronger players. 

mgx9600

How old are you? The answer truly depends (greatly) on your age.

Since he's your dad, it doesn't really matter what the final outcome is. But how you get there matters and that's where the answer can help you.

SpareMyKing2019
My dad does not play online. Only board game. I’m in my 30s and from Chicago. Just stated looking locally.

The outcome doesn’t matter. But pride does, and I want to make my father proud for the fact that if you said something, you do it (his teaching.).

Thanks for the advice gentlemen. Appreciated.
daxypoo
if you are just starting i would recommend what has been said for all of us recent newbies to chess

1. check out john bartholomew’s “chess fundamentals” and “climbing the ratings ladder” series on youtube

2. get a good “beginner” tactics book either in print or an online source (i say “beginner” in the sense that a good tactics book will start with the building of tactical themes and add to that as you progress in the book)

3. limit online games to at the absolute least 15/10 but much better 30min and even better 30+ with an increment: the longer time controls will give you much more opportunity to play your “best moves” and the higher quality of your games the more you will benefit from post game analysis (#4)

4. after each game go through the game move by move (i use an ios chess database to load my games to and it makes annotation and analysis much easier; i only use chess.com app so many of the sites features i cannot use from app); make notes of when you were confused, perhaps fearful, when you felt a critical point etc.; after this, use the computer to check for blunders (you will know a blunder when the evaluation makes a significant jump of +/- 2.0 or more) then, follow the computer line to see how this is exploited
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if you are really serious and have the time you really should consider joining a chess club and playing otb rated tournament games at a classical time control; this will really get you going in the right direction

after a few otb rated games and doing the same kind of post game analysis you might consider either getting a really strong player from chess club to go over game with you or hire a chess coach to do the same thing with you (the benefit of a good coach is that he/she will give you additional material/exercises to address your weaker points)

good luck

mgx9600
SpareMyKing2019 wrote:
My dad does not play online. Only board game. I’m in my 30s and from Chicago. Just stated looking locally.

The outcome doesn’t matter. But pride does, and I want to make my father proud for the fact that if you said something, you do it (his teaching.).

Thanks for the advice gentlemen. Appreciated.

 

Since you're 30, the first step is to determine the probability of a successful outcome, then chart your course of action. 

 

To determine task difficulty:

1. Ask your dad to play against rated players or a computer.

2. You do the same.

3. Research chess study time/improvement rate.

 

If task is doable:

1. Set study plan

2. Set small milestones so you can regularly gauge your progress

3. Regularly play your dad

 

If task is impossible (NOTE: impossible as in you cannot beat your dad by year end, not that you'll never beat him):

1. Tell him

As a dad myself, I'd much rather my son tell me if he's spoken too soon than to see him believing in the impossible (it is an important life skill to learn). Don't worry about "pride", there isn't any between father and son because a father always understand his son in the deepest way.

 

kindaspongey

"... for those that want to be as good as they can be, they'll have to work hard.

Play opponents who are better than you … . Learn basic endgames. Create a simple opening repertoire (understanding the moves are far more important than memorizing them). Study tactics. And pick up tons of patterns. That’s the drumbeat of success. ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (December 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/article/view/little-things-that-help-your-game

lindarbj

if u're just starting chess, look for openings in chessgames website.

learn the 4 fist moves, then play 10 min games, untill u throw up. learn from others u play with.

dont play 15+ min games. they are useless if u dont know patterns to look for. your objective beeing to learn patterns.

another thingu can do is download icc dasher, the oldest version. its free. u using that app, helps u remember moves by playing them repeatedly

NoTakeHorsie
lindarobert wrote:

if u're just starting chess, look for openings in chessgames website.

learn the 4 fist moves, then play 10 min games, untill u throw up. learn from others u play with.

dont play 15+ min games. they are useless if u dont know patterns to look for. your objective beeing to learn patterns.

another thingu can do is download icc dasher, the oldest version. its free. u using that app, helps u remember moves by playing them repeatedly

 

If you do pretty much the opposite of everything said in this post, you are on the right track.

bishbash1
If your dad spanks you 95% of the time you must already beat him 5% of the time.
lindarbj
NoTakeHorsie wrote:
lindarobert wrote:

if u're just starting chess, look for openings in chessgames website.

learn the 4 fist moves, then play 10 min games, untill u throw up. learn from others u play with.

dont play 15+ min games. they are useless if u dont know patterns to look for. your objective beeing to learn patterns.

another thingu can do is download icc dasher, the oldest version. its free. u using that app, helps u remember moves by playing them repeatedly

 

If you do pretty much the opposite of everything said in this post, you are on the right track.

thats why i'm 1800 elo on lichess, cause i did it wrong. and thats why 1'm 1400 elo on bullet. interesting

 

your comment coming from what achievement ?

thinknv956

lol

 

 

NoTakeHorsie
lindarobert wrote:
NoTakeHorsie wrote:
lindarobert wrote:

if u're just starting chess, look for openings in chessgames website.

learn the 4 fist moves, then play 10 min games, untill u throw up. learn from others u play with.

dont play 15+ min games. they are useless if u dont know patterns to look for. your objective beeing to learn patterns.

another thingu can do is download icc dasher, the oldest version. its free. u using that app, helps u remember moves by playing them repeatedly

 

If you do pretty much the opposite of everything said in this post, you are on the right track.

thats why i'm 1800 elo on lichess, cause i did it wrong. and thats why 1'm 1400 elo on bullet. interesting

 

1800 on lichess is like 1300 fide so I don't quite get your point.

lindarbj

1800 on lichess is like 1300 fide so I don't quite get your point.

and u know this from what source?

if you cant see my drift, then u might need some inspections done

NoTakeHorsie
lindarobert wrote:

1800 on lichess is like 1300 fide so I don't quite get your point.

and u know this from what source?

 

 

playing both otb and on lichess

lindarbj
NoTakeHorsie wrote:
lindarobert wrote:

1800 on lichess is like 1300 fide so I don't quite get your point.

and u know this from what source?

 

 

playing both otb and on lichess

in other words u're just talking trash just maybe u look smarter

NoTakeHorsie

up for some blitz? I want to see those patterns in action happy.png

lindarbj
NoTakeHorsie wrote:

up for some blitz? I want to see those patterns in action

thank you for just proving my point, u just want to look smart

NoTakeHorsie
lindarobert wrote:
NoTakeHorsie wrote:

up for some blitz? I want to see those patterns in action

thank you for just proving my point, u just want to look smart

 

no i want to make clear to the OP and any beginner reading this thread that your advice is terrible.

lindarbj
NoTakeHorsie wrote:
lindarobert wrote:
NoTakeHorsie wrote:

up for some blitz? I want to see those patterns in action

thank you for just proving my point, u just want to look smart

 

no i want to make clear to the OP and any beginner reading this thread that your advice is terrible.

how is my advice correlated with my losing or beating you ? just please stop talking with me, u're wasting my time, and taking to much space for un unrelated subject

 

for the op, i think exercising moves over a book is good too. i remembder when i was a kid, at the club i played, they've had us playing games from books. this helped me a lot to see patterns and learn main ideas for openings