Highest ELO rating a player can achieve ?
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About 3,400 I believe after which point you will get no increase after beating the world number 2.
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Scottrf, thank you for the great link, how did you fined it?
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ori0 wrote:
Scottrf, thank you for the great link, how did you fined it?
Searched google for elo rating calculator.
in_pras78 wrote:
I am still confused. How did you got 3400 figure ?
Just put 2700 in opponent box (so you're playing pretty much the best opponents) and increased your rating until a win wouldn't give a rating change.
In practice it may not be accurate because of opponent's ratings decrease/rounding in the calculations.
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Is this your new target then?
Scottrf wrote:
I just put some numbers into a ELO rating calculator.
That would only hold if the world number two were to stay static, relative to the world #1. Practically speaking, the top tier forms a fairly insular feedback pool, and can continue to creep upwards together infinitely. Slowly, to be sure, but there is no theoretical max.
To sustain, they need only win often enough against the tier below to make sure the losses they accrue against one another are more than offset by the gains from beating up the relative patsies. As long as there are enough players in each tier, the spiral can continue.
TupeloDanger wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
I just put some numbers into a ELO rating calculator.
That would only hold if the world number two were to stay static, relative to the world #1. Practically speaking, the top tier forms a fairly insular feedback pool, and can continue to creep upwards together infinitely. Slowly, to be sure, but there is no theoretical max.
But they would be losing rating every time the top player is pushing his up. I just don't think that pool of players is large enough after a certain point.
EDIT: You're right, but I intended the answer to be somewhat 'realistic', given a perfect player without a greatly changed rest of the world.
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in_pras78 wrote:
Yeah it's my next target ;-)
Good luck:)
Apr 19, 2012
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stromy_king wrote:
There is no such limit as 3400.
It goes on indefinetly
yes, assuming that he has opposition in which if beaten will net him rating points. in theory it goes on forever, but i think that 3500-ish is going to be about right. :)
stromy_king wrote:
Even though the differance is more than 400. U must gain a little every time U will . SO MATHAMATICALY (LOGICALY) THERE IS NO UPPER LIMIT. NO SEILING.
THE FLOOR IS 1200.
I believe you are saying, for the purpose of ratings calculation, the maximum difference is 400.
http://www.fide.com/fide/handbook?id=73&view=article
"8.54 A difference in rating of more than 400 points shall be counted for rating purposes as though it were a difference of 400 points (compare 8.58)."
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The floor will be 1000 in 2012 July. Used to be 2000 but I must assume there are fees involved? http://www.fide.com/component/content/article/1-fide-news/5314-2nd-quarter-fide-presidential-board-meeting-at-al-ain-united-arab-emirates.html
"The Board decided to implement the recommendation of the Qualification Chairman and Rating Administrator to lower the rating floor to 1000 and produce the rating list on a monthly basis. It was agreed that this should come into effect from July 1st 2012."
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Balachandar wrote:
@ Scottrf : You assumed that the opponent will remain at 2700 level, so the maximum a player can achieve is 3400. But opponent's rating can increase too by defeating other 2700s. So, technically there's no end.
Suppose, 2 top players never play each other. They play all the rest of the super GMs in the 2700s and defeat them in each and every match, they can get their ratings to 3400 each. And now if both the 3400 players play continuously vs each other and one keeps on winning, he cn reach 3600 or more. And I just assumed 2 players. So it goes on an on.
No. I just realised how many games it will take and that there aren't enough 2700 players to defeat.
I was looking at a realistic answer.
Scottrf wrote:
Balachandar wrote:
@ Scottrf : You assumed that the opponent will remain at 2700 level, so the maximum a player can achieve is 3400. But opponent's rating can increase too by defeating other 2700s. So, technically there's no end.
Suppose, 2 top players never play each other. They play all the rest of the super GMs in the 2700s and defeat them in each and every match, they can get their ratings to 3400 each. And now if both the 3400 players play continuously vs each other and one keeps on winning, he cn reach 3600 or more. And I just assumed 2 players. So it goes on an on.
No. I just realised how many games it will take and that there aren't enough 2700 players to defeat.
I was looking at a realistic answer.
I think to be even remotely "realistic," the scenario has to assume a more or less normal distribution, i.e., a bell curve.
Given such a reality, the idea that one player could approach 3400 while his closest competitors remained around 2700 is so unlikely as to require a leap into the realm of science fiction.
TupeloDanger wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Balachandar wrote:
@ Scottrf : You assumed that the opponent will remain at 2700 level, so the maximum a player can achieve is 3400. But opponent's rating can increase too by defeating other 2700s. So, technically there's no end.
Suppose, 2 top players never play each other. They play all the rest of the super GMs in the 2700s and defeat them in each and every match, they can get their ratings to 3400 each. And now if both the 3400 players play continuously vs each other and one keeps on winning, he cn reach 3600 or more. And I just assumed 2 players. So it goes on an on.
No. I just realised how many games it will take and that there aren't enough 2700 players to defeat.
I was looking at a realistic answer.
I think to be even remotely "realistic," the scenario has to assume a more or less normal distribution, i.e., a bell curve.
Given such a reality, the idea that one player could approach 3400 while his closest competitors remained around 2700 is so unlikely as to require a leap into the realm of science fiction.
Well, provide an interesting answer yourself then...
Infinity is clearly not what he was looking for and a google search would have given that answer.
Apr 19, 2012
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Technically there is no limit. By beating a player rated 400 points lower or more, one still gets 0.8 rating points. Realistically speaking, we won't see anyone break 2900 any time soon. As to long-term...who knows what will happen to the world of chess and IT-technologies. What if we get to implant databases and chips in our heads in 20 years... 