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Hikaru cheating allegations is the last thing his peers need
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There are more cheating accusations in chess than sexual misconduct accusations in Hollywood!
Laughable to think Hikaru would need to cheat, Kramnik is right to draw attention to cheating but it's made him incredibly paranoid and picking on a super grandmaster simply highlights the fact cheating in chess appears to be making him stir crazy whilst indicating that he is probably envious of Hikaru's success.
If he actually looked at the games, all streamed live, even putting aside Hikaru explaining moves, drawing arrows, highlighting squares, pre moving etc, he would have seen the following in regards to those 46 blitz matches
- 16x wins against the same IM (Pe0la)
- 8x wins against the same FM (LiamPutnam2008)
- 8x wins against the same IM (artur0208)
- 8x wins against the same FM (artin10862)
- 4x wins against the same IM (legendisback1)
- 1x win against a GM (njal28) - 63.1% accuracy
That's hardly earth shattering, beating 6 different players, 3 IM's, 2 FM's, and 1 single Grand Master with a sub 65% accuracy ranked 153rd in the world by FIDE. He should be beating them every time as a Super GM, especially considering the other 5 players appear to have less than 80% accuracy on average across their games.
Ratings are irrelevant if one player repeatedly beats another - example: when Carlsen smothered Nakamura in that private 100 game blitz match that was video recorded by Peter Doggers just before Chessvibes became a wing of chess.com. This was the Tal Memorial, must have been around 2012-2013, it was a combined classical then blitz tournament. Carlsen was fresh, he only showed up for the blitz and Nakamura had just finished an exhausting classical tournament when they played. But that’s no excuse, Nakamura had a long winless streak when facing Carlsen after that.
I am aware of only one other person to publicly accuse Nakamura of cheating. It was US Chess Lifemaster A.J. Goldsby, which apparently got started when he lost to Nakamura in one of the first online tournaments, 2003 Dos Hermanas International Blitz Tournament, Internet Section 15-A. Here is the game analysis by an NM, with one of Goldsby’s accusations:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFaCp1i6fWs
You Tube Comments:
“@LifeMasterAJ
8 years ago
A simple fact. ANYONE who was an admin on the USCF website will tell you that Nakamura was busted for cheating ... multiple times. As far as investigative reporting goes, you score a ZERO!!!”
PGN should be at CG or 365.
Nov 21, 2023
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#7
Kramnik has no right to accuse people when he him self cheated in a wcc match
Y'all better not become too good... or some GM will accuse you of cheating...
putshort wrote:
I am aware of only one other person to publicly accuse Nakamura of cheating. It was US Chess Lifemaster A.J. Goldsby, which apparently got started when he lost to Nakamura in one of the first online tournaments, 2003 Dos Hermanas International Blitz Tournament, Internet Section 15-A. Here is the game analysis by an NM, with one of Goldsby’s accusations:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFaCp1i6fWsYou Tube Comments:
“@LifeMasterAJ
8 years ago
A simple fact. ANYONE who was an admin on the USCF website will tell you that Nakamura was busted for cheating ... multiple times. As far as investigative reporting goes, you score a ZERO!!!”
PGN should be at CG or 365.
Okay Idk where you got all this information from. I searched for like an hour and this is the information I found:
- Goldsby was a master level player, but was definitely nowhere near Hikaru's class. Not surprising that he was beaten, also isn't 2003 a little early for a chess cheating scandal, I mean I know chess engines were better than humans then, but it was nowhere near as easy to cheat, especially in a blitz game. I also didn't really see anything of note in the cheating and didn't even hear anything about cheating in the video tbh it just seemed like a nice game by Hikaru, who was already a pretty strong GM, especially at Blitz.
- Also about the "fact" that USCF busted Hikaru for cheating online and "all the admins know" maybe we can have more specifics and also how come their is not a single thing online about it
- Lastly, you can't cheat in bullet at top level (it's almost certainly too fast to be able to) and Hikaru is god at that, so if he was cheating regularly that would be massive handicap on bullet skills, which there is most certainly not.
Of course, this is just my take. I respectfully disagree with @putshort but that does not necessarily mean he is wrong
Really sad to see all this
Nov 22, 2023
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#12
This drama is grim. And multiple top players and streamers making comments and getting involved.
It would be nice if there was clear, evidence-backed statements rather than insinuations and mud-slinging. It's all messy.
I don’t know about the traditional form of cheating using engines, but the high level tournaments put on by this website sure do have a strong whiff of matchfixing.
Kayfabe is alive and well on chess.com
bobthebuilder178 wrote:
putshort wrote:
I am aware of only one other person to publicly accuse Nakamura of cheating. It was US Chess Lifemaster A.J. Goldsby, which apparently got started when he lost to Nakamura in one of the first online tournaments, 2003 Dos Hermanas International Blitz Tournament, Internet Section 15-A. Here is the game analysis by an NM, with one of Goldsby’s accusations:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFaCp1i6fWsYou Tube Comments:
“@LifeMasterAJ
8 years ago
A simple fact. ANYONE who was an admin on the USCF website will tell you that Nakamura was busted for cheating ... multiple times. As far as investigative reporting goes, you score a ZERO!!!”
PGN should be at CG or 365.
Okay Idk where you got all this information from. I searched for like an hour and this is the information I found:
- Goldsby was a master level player, but was definitely nowhere near Hikaru's class. Not surprising that he was beaten, also isn't 2003 a little early for a chess cheating scandal, I mean I know chess engines were better than humans then, but it was nowhere near as easy to cheat, especially in a blitz game. I also didn't really see anything of note in the cheating and didn't even hear anything about cheating in the video tbh it just seemed like a nice game by Hikaru, who was already a pretty strong GM, especially at Blitz.
- Also about the "fact" that USCF busted Hikaru for cheating online and "all the admins know" maybe we can have more specifics and also how come their is not a single thing online about it
- Lastly, you can't cheat in bullet at top level (it's almost certainly too fast to be able to) and Hikaru is god at that, so if he was cheating regularly that would be massive handicap on bullet skills, which there is most certainly not.
Of course, this is just my take. I respectfully disagree with @putshort but that does not necessarily mean he is wrong
It looks like he’s not accusing Hikaru of cheating, the blurb at the end is a quote of A.J. Goldsby.
That's fair, I didn't see the qoute mark
Nothing in Hikaru's 46-game streak looked suspicious to me. He was just beating up on lower-rated (and lower-titled) players.
Hikaru is arguably the second-strongest blitz player on the planet (with Magnus being the top). He's certainly strong enough to adopt 2900s all day long. They're basically free points for him.
Especially when you combine this with continual rematches and the tilt-factor ...
If you really think about it... Hikaru gonna be so mad about the Kramnik insinuation... he's going to dominate the Candidates... and crush Ding in the world championship match... and the 18th world champion will inevitably be Hikaru Nakamura... possibly for years to come...
OK, OK, this is satire... but still...
This is what I'm talking about in case you don't know (no, Eric didn't accuse him, this is just his reaction vid)