it is a copy-paste from lichess
Hikaru Nakamura disqualified for having a phone near him during his online game!
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Oct 17, 2021
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noImAparrot wrote:
let's gooo i found someone else who uses reddit
dude its not me just copied and pasted
Ok
Oct 17, 2021
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TRAP4MOUSE wrote:
noImAparrot wrote:
let's gooo i found someone else who uses reddit
dude its not me just copied and pasted
Oct 17, 2021
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noImAparrot wrote:
TRAP4MOUSE wrote:
noImAparrot wrote:
let's gooo i found someone else who uses reddit
dude its not me just copied and pasted
it was from lichess
Oct 17, 2021
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blitz2009 wrote:
So your saying one of the best otb players in the world cheated?
bruh read the first line yuh can understand
Cringe drama
#3 yeah, only you and OP use reddit, no one else
blitz2009 wrote:
Shut up
No
Oct 17, 2021
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Hikaru didn’t cheat, he just didn’t take the tournament seriously
“I may have all the facts totally wrong.” - OP
And yet the OP posts anyways - distorting entire events. The forums have become nothing but a means for adolescents seeking negative attention.
Rules ?? The OP is completely clueless about their intent and application.
Redditt posts notoriously distort/ignore the true facts.
Oct 17, 2021
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Circumlocutions wrote:
Hikaru didn’t cheat, he just didn’t take the tournament seriously
He kept his mobile near him on online tournament it is considered as cheating by the rules
New drama for the chess world :) When rules become chess traps that even Grandmasters fall into!Hi all
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Okay, I was reading Reddit chess earlier today:
https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/q8uvm1/csl_hikaru_disqualified_for_having_a_phone_near/
Yes, during an online tournament it seems, Nakamura who had been wearing headphones for earlier rounds (which could have been used as computer move transmitters), was apparently forfeited for his mobile phone going off near his computer. Perhaps more accurately it is because the phone went off before Nakamura put it on mute. Anyway, before this dramatic event, another Grandmaster Vidit Gujrathi was forfeited for offering a draw in a drawing position before move 40. This tournament is really creating viral marketing! GOOD JOB!
The philosophy of rules and enforcement
Are rules meant to have goals behind them? - i.e. is there a "Why" associated with rules or are they meant to be in isolation and inconsistent and/or incomplete? If not, maybe eating a banana during an online game (Potassium advantage) could be the reason for forfeit or perhaps two cups of coffee (caffeine advantage)? Or maybe a notepad nearby? (theoretical scribbling advantage). It is possible to do better than this trivia as this online tournament shows.
As an aside - I was forfeited once in the Barnet Over the board congress!
Yes, I have once been forfeited in a winning game position in an OTB tournament for my phone going off. After that event, I stopped taking my phone to any tournament - leaving it at home. One issue is that even if you think it is turned off, it still might beep with some battery low indicator or something unexpected. Better not have it around. But this is over the board chess. What about online chess with cameras? Should the same rule be enforced in a GM tournament that is meant to be a fun online event? In an over-the-board venue hundreds of players could be disturbed by a single phone going off. But what about this particular context of an online event?
An online Grandmaster tournament with draconian rules
The funny thing about this tournament is that a GM in a previous round was apparently forfeited for making a draw offer before move 40. The GM who forfeited tweeted:
https://twitter.com/viditchess/status/1448688258402033678
Vidit Gujrathi
[viditchess](https://twitter.com/viditchess)
Apparently streaming & playing and playing multiple games/tournaments simultaneously is allowed. But draw in a drawn position isn’t allowed. Great job!
Maybe one would expect a first warning for the "implementation of rule-enforcement" but somehow this tournament seems to be creating publicity from a maximum rule enforcement regime without any first warnings, or context - or discussion with the players.
Nakamura had a response video to this:
https://clips.twitch.tv/FrozenTsundereCoyoteTheTarFu-imeSbKTCiJWkLlnv
In this clip, Nakamura emphasises he always reads the draw rules. I feel that Nakamura does this because he appreciates perhaps that draws are not entertaining to spectators, and the goal behind draw rules is to make grandmaster events more of a "spectator sport". But it seems other Grandmasters have not realised that they are now "performing seals" so it did not occur to them to check the draw rules. Maybe they just wanted to play good chess, and avoid the traps on the board - without realising there are other types of traps to fall into, in the form of rule violations.
The FUNNY THING is ........
And now Nakamura also gets disqualified apparently for his mobile phone going off! - in this ONLINE event - where he was wearing headphones in previous rounds. And where multi-tournament streaming is allowed.
More juicy traps needed?
Hmmm, maybe there should be some more juicy traps to fall into for the next tournament edition. How many Grandmasters can be forfeited for rule infractions in the same fun online tournament? Maybe having a dog bark, or a cat meow, or any notepads around for scribbling, should also be set as traps? And what about the coffee and bananas? Perhaps some limits on those, etc. One rule that should definitely be enforced is if you play the dreaded London system - that deserves an immediate forfeit. No, but seriously all joking aside, the London system is a solid great opening and I have a course on it here: https://kingscrusher.tv/londonsystem - well worth checking out.
Such a draconian application of rules in a binary way, for me, makes competitive serious chess less fun and less worth it. The interesting thing about the draw offer rule is that it could have also been enforced on the Server-side - with a draw offer being disabled before move 40 - to actually prevent this violation from happening. It seems the organisers are keen in effect to set "traps" for Grandmasters. What a great reward for becoming a Grandmaster - for bureaucratic rules with a maximum punishment regime to be enforced. The funny thing also is that the no-draw rule was surely for an entertainment goal - to entertain the general public.
Rules perhaps too strictly enforced?
Personally, I am not sure the general organization and rule enforcement of this event are entirely appropriate for such an online event. Rules which could have been implemented server-side would have avoided the "offer draw and lose trap". And a sensible discussion with Nakamura to get the backstory and maybe an initial warning would also have been more human in my view than being draconian about things for his phone going off. Unlike Over-the-board, hundreds of players did not hear that phone. No one seemed to be disturbed by it. Apparently, he has a car in the garage and was needing to collect it soon. Maybe some discussion for why he had a phone nearby could have been good - and for any rules, to have a 1st warning.
Well done to the event organisations for making the event to controversial and being so draconian on the rules. Some of those rules by their goal such as the draw offer was ironically to try and make the tournament more spectator friendly in my view - so going against the goals as well behind the rules. I think rule making and enforcement are two skillsets which do need work to create a good implementation.