history of chinese chess

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JessieWong

Still repeating to ask the same question even someone answered it in earlier thread? Nice try it didn't worked to change other people's mind about Xiangqi.

JessieWong

Looks like your only play is to repeat the same questions answered by others on the early thread. Wouldn't you try better one, I met trolls better than you.

JessieWong

Looks like you didn't been to the museum before in Beijing, while I've been there. Looks like I have the speech.

JessieWong

People who have basic education knew that the answer is in the earlier thread, they are not fools to read that, and they know you keep repeating the same question even though someone answered you.lol

JessieWong

I have zero credibility. Nice try slapping your own face.


That's only what you got, for someone that have seen the artifacts from their museum?

You can do better than other trolls trust me, or else just believe in your Santa clause. 

 

JessieWong

😄 welcome 

MovedtoLiches
IgorKravitz wrote:
Igor been to Museum in Beijing. He like 后海区。many pubs and pizza then. He like old 胡同 pizza place, but it close now.

Fultano’s Pizza in Clatskanie, OR would be worth the trip ... if you like pizza. 

ArtemKozirev

@IgorKravitz, what you have seen is probably Mahjong which is a complete different game to Xiang Qi, some of the ideograms they use in both games but that's all. And about the pizza, in China you can only find it ( after looking and looking ) in the big cities in Pizza Hut or Pappa Joe's may be Domino, basically "nail'ao" = cheese is unexisting in China, they have a deficit of milk and dairy products which they import, basically very few cows they have. The uprising middle class in China is just starting to taste all this ...

derekdavid
ArtemKozirev wrote:

@IgorKravitz, what you have seen is probably Mahjong which is a complete different game to Xiang Qi, some of the ideograms they use in both games but that's all. And about the pizza, in China you can only find it ( after looking and looking ) in the big cities in Pizza Hut or Pappa Joe's may be Domino, basically "nail'ao" = cheese is unexisting in China, they have a deficit of milk and dairy products which they import, basically very few cows they have. The uprising middle class in China is just starting to taste all this ...

Really? Cheese doesn't exist in China? Or are we talking about the definition of cheese here? Sorry I didn't exactly go through every comment lol

cpzmapdlxm
What is chinese chess? I’d never heard about it
MovedtoLiches
derekdavid wrote:
ArtemKozirev wrote:

@IgorKravitz, what you have seen is probably Mahjong which is a complete different game to Xiang Qi, some of the ideograms they use in both games but that's all. And about the pizza, in China you can only find it ( after looking and looking ) in the big cities in Pizza Hut or Pappa Joe's may be Domino, basically "nail'ao" = cheese is unexisting in China, they have a deficit of milk and dairy products which they import, basically very few cows they have. The uprising middle class in China is just starting to taste all this ...

Really? Cheese doesn't exist in China? Or are we talking about the definition of cheese here? Sorry I didn't exactly go through every comment lol

Why is there a thread about Chinese Cheese?

Grand_Socialism
advaysrivastava wrote:

chinese chess was invented in china, during the warring states, it was invented by a commander. pieces are placed in sections of board squares. they slide on the lines

warring states?

Sengoku Jidai?

thats japanese man, talk about shogi or something

Grand_Socialism
long_quach wrote:
Grand_Socialism wrote:
advaysrivastava wrote:

chinese chess was invented in china, during the warring states, it was invented by a commander. pieces are placed in sections of board squares. they slide on the lines

warring states?

Sengoku Jidai?

thats japanese man, talk about shogi or something

Every state is the world was warring with every other state in all of history.

a particular state of japanese history was known as the warring states period 

MovedtoLiches

Unfollowed. 

Chensquare
long_quach 写道:

Could somebody, Chinese, explain to us why:

1. The chariots are Roman instead of Chinese.

2. The board is cut in half like a modern travel chess set.

3. All the pieces are identical like it came out of a mold.

4. The proportions are Staunton.

5. The pieces have the Staunton abstraction.

6. The cannons are cannons instead of catapults (ala Gladiator. When I think of cannons, I think of the Napoleonic Wars)

7. There are the Chu and the Han glyphs on the board. (I haven't seen that until the 21st Century).

8. Why I shouldn't be joning (Ebonics: making fun of) on China? (I can, but I don't want to as I am half Chinese).

 

This example of pictures which you listed are the souvenir for the tourist. Thank you for send some random google picture result from the internet as your proof.  But that didn't count as evidence. 

If you want, i can you show tons of pictures in the following. They are fake products. That also means your evidence is not based on historic evidence. And they are cheap.

and

 

 

Chensquare
long_quach 写道:

Could somebody who know Chinese history tell me:

When is it that Kings don't fight on the battlefield anymore, like in Chinese Chess. Only Generals fight. That's why The Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean calls it General + Chess and not King + Chess.

We know that Leonidas, Alexander, and Napoleon fought on the battlefield. Heck, even George Washington fought on the battlefield.

When is it in China that Kings don't fight on the battlefield? 

Chinese Chess is a little bit anachronistic. The "General" is not on the battlefield, but acts like a King in a palace. While Western Chess, the "King" is on the battlefield.

 

In the movie Alexander, both Alexander and Darius were on the battlefield, but Darius ran back to the Capital.

Here they both are on a mosaic, depicted 100 BC.

 

In the movie Kingdom of Heaven, the King of England is on the battlefield.

In El Cid, the King of Spain is on the battlefield.

You need to understand that the war scale in acient china is much larger than european ones. Take the Chu Han War 楚汉战争 as example. it's the war before 汉朝the Han Dynasty. The war scale is covered half the territoriy of modern China. They are not some small viilage fighter between towns where one or two warriors might make a diffferent. The below picture shows the historical boundary of 西汉王朝, West Han Dynasty. it's the first half of the Han Dynasty. Beside,南越Vitame was rather rural/barbian area back then.

Besides, if you wan to add some romance in the historical war stories, we had tons of material for you to learn. Take the 三国演义,Romance of Three kingdoms, we had bunch of battle stories in its first half. However, when the war scale became larger, you could also knew that stragtey and statcis are quite important in wars than few battles. You might won lots of fights, but you cannot win the war. 

Here is the picture of 三英战吕布, three heros fight villan Lv Bu.