How deep can A class and masters calculate

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fgsjd

I would appreciate it if anybody rated 1800-2200 FIDE or USCF would tell me how deep they can accurately calculate in a classical game. Also please specify whether your answer is full moves or ply.

IMKeto

I peaked as a USCF A player.  Obviously im just speaking for myself, but i generally looked at my candidate moves, 2 maybe 3 moves ahead.  "What would i do, what would my opponent do, what would i do, what would my opponent do?"

Obviously, forced lines can be calculated deeper.

blueemu

It depends entirely on the position.

If the play is not forced and each player has a dozen or so alternatives at each move, then even looking one full move ahead (two ply) would require examining and assessing nearly 150 positions.  Looking two moves ahead would require examining and assessing over 20,000 positions. That's not humanly possible under tournament time constraints. 

But if the play is forced and each player has only one reasonable option at each move, then there's no practical limit to how far ahead you can calculate.

fgsjd

This is nice to hear.I have never gotten an official rating but I can calculate 2-3 moves ahead unless it's a forced move in witch case I can calculate a little bit farther.I know very very little theory tho so I don't think I am any where near that rating.l don't play much online either so my online rating isn't to high. My online tactics rating on lichess is 2000-2100 tho.

SeniorPatzer

I hate it when I'm calculating and I forget that a piece I thought was there has moved or been exchanged off. 

blueemu

That particular type of blunder is called "the retained image".

GearWound

2 to 3 moves ahead, on average. Usually that's enough to determine whether or not your position has improved (unless the line is extremely tactical, in which case you might have to strain yourself to see a few more moves ahead).

JCoombs1972

Although My USCF rating is 1001 I have been tested by my coach and I have been tested at around 2200 elo. When I'm in a Chess tournament I like follow the advice of Alexander Kotov and do a general assessment during my turn, then when my opponent is up for their move I calculate anywhere between 5 up to around 25 moves ahead. Again it all depends on the position. I will of course during Home time I do practice analyses and practical play in simulated tournament games. This will nurture the ability to calculate and see further. Remember the more you work your mind the stronger it will get. Learn to analyze your chess games on your own without the aid of the computer and you'll see that you will be able to see further in time.

 

ChessJustice19

can i tell you how i calculate,am i good enough?

ChessJustice19

if so,it depends on the position.In endgames i can calculate preety far,in middlegames mabye 5-10 moves 

Deranged

You want to know how far an 1800-2200 FIDE rated player can calculate? Go on tactics trainer and look up problems that are around 2600-3000 tactics rating. These people will get these tactics problems correct the majority of the time.

fgsjd

 I just played in my first tournament and I realized that theirs a big difference in casual games and tournament games for me and I cannot calculate quite as far in tournament games as in casual games. Does that go away after a few tournaments? 

madratter7

Most people, class A or not can calculate 2 to 3 moves ahead. The real difference isn't so much how far they look ahead, but how accurately they choose the moves to look at.

fgsjd
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

I'm still trying to figure out the 2200 1001 player...

What?

hikarunaku
JCoombs1972 wrote:

Although My USCF rating is 1001 I have been tested by my coach and I have been tested at around 2200 elo. When I'm in a Chess tournament I like follow the advice of Alexander Kotov and do a general assessment during my turn, then when my opponent is up for their move I calculate anywhere between 5 up to around 25 moves ahead. Again it all depends on the position. I will of course during Home time I do practice analyses and practical play in simulated tournament games. This will nurture the ability to calculate and see further. Remember the more you work your mind the stronger it will get. Learn to analyze your chess games on your own without the aid of the computer and you'll see that you will be able to see further in time.

 

This @fgsjd

fgsjd
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

I'm still trying to figure out the 2200 1001 player...

never mind, I missed his comment and didn't know what you were talking about

fgsjd
JCoombs1972 wrote:

Although My USCF rating is 1001 I have been tested by my coach and I have been tested at around 2200 elo. When I'm in a Chess tournament I like follow the advice of Alexander Kotov and do a general assessment during my turn, then when my opponent is up for their move I calculate anywhere between 5 up to around 25 moves ahead. Again it all depends on the position. I will of course during Home time I do practice analyses and practical play in simulated tournament games. This will nurture the ability to calculate and see further. Remember the more you work your mind the stronger it will get. Learn to analyze your chess games on your own without the aid of the computer and you'll see that you will be able to see further in time.

 

25 moves ahead is as good or better than most world champions so no offense but im not going not going to believe that without proof

 

DaniilKalabukhov

It depends on the position. If I need to calculate a forced variation then may be I can calculate for 15-20 moves ahead, but in an unclear position - I don't know, probably 4-6 moves.

DaniilKalabukhov

E. g. in a simple pawn endgame it's not hard to calculate for 20 moves, but in a sharp middle game it's really hard to calculate for more than 5 moves.

unusualkid

As 2000 USCF, depending on how forced the line is, probably 4-5 moves on average.

Too many blunders caused by not seeing far enough or missing a decisive move right after I end my calculations.

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