how much FIDE rating required to be a NM(National Master)?

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Tinku_Basumatary

i just wanted to know the exact rating of FIDE which gives the title NM?

k_kostov

NM is given for National Master, which doesn't depend on FIDE rating but on national rating. FIDE rating is related to the IM title (among others) which requires at least 2400 FIDE rating if I'm not mistaken.

TheRussianPatzer

0, since national master is a USCF title (or whatever country the particular title is associated with).

Tinku_Basumatary

NM title has nothing relation with rating?

k_kostov

It's related to rating, but there are separate ratings for your results in "national" games and "international" games, respectively different titles gained.

Every rated tournament you play in is connected with at least one of your ratings, and that's stated in the tournament rules. Usually club tournaments influence your national rating, but there are some tournaments which influence both ratings, or only your international rating.

You may have, say, 1500 national rating and 1550 international, and both can change independently. If you fulill the requirements for becoming a national master you'll become one, but they're not connected with your international rating, you may even be unrated internationally.

 

makikihustle

NM = 2200 USCF rating

(USCF = United States Chess Federation)

plutonia

do we have a national master title here in England under the ECF?

I always read about american's NM so I assumed we had one too, but I can't seem to find any info on it...

GreedyPawnGrabber

In some places such as Trinidad and Tobago or Papua you can be National Master with 1700 FIDE.

Doggy_Style
plutonia wrote:

do we have a national master title here in England under the ECF?

I always read about american's NM so I assumed we had one too, but I can't seem to find any info on it...

Over 200 ECF, two seasons in a row:

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/membership/master-points-system/

plutonia
Doggy_Style wrote:
plutonia wrote:

do we have a national master title here in England under the ECF?

I always read about american's NM so I assumed we had one too, but I can't seem to find any info on it...

Over 200 ECF, two seasons in a row:

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/membership/master-points-system/

 

thanks.

wow, 200 ECF is the equivalent to 2250 FIDE. That is much harder than 2200 USCF, so it's much harder to achieve NM in England than in the US.

 

It seems that the "easier" title an English player can get is then FIDE's Candidate Master... there goes my hope to ever be a titled player :P

GreedyPawnGrabber
plutonia wrote:

wow, 200 ECF is the equivalent to 2250 FIDE. That is much harder than 2200 USCF, so it's much harder to achieve NM in England than in the US.

 

It seems that the "easier" title an English player can get is then FIDE's Candidate Master... there goes my hope to ever be a titled player :P

 Just move to South Africa .

TheBigDecline
GreedyPawnGrabber wrote:

In some places such as Trinidad and Tobago or Papua you can be National Master with 1700 FIDE.

I wonder if there are any titled players in really tiny nations like Monaco or Vatican City and what their ratings might be ....

Mr_YinYang

For those of you who can have access to a fide title go that rought instead. USCF in my opinion has a weak title system with little creativity. we got NM(National Master) and LM(Life Master). Life Master is a bit redundeant because after you get your NM title its for life, so why even have a Life Master title? It's very hard to find F.I.D.E tournaments here in the states.  FIDE is more well known even here and people with a 2500 rating im sure would want GrandMaster instead of the weak ,redundent title name Life Master. I think it sucks americans have to struggle to find FIDE tournaments. Noone really cares or knows what a Life Master is in chess. If you think Im being rude. How many LM's do you see on here vs Gm's?

TheOldReb

I have an NM title from both the USA (USCF ) and Portugal . Portugal awards the NM title for a FIDE rating of 2200 and better . FIDE 2300 is FM which is a FIDE title .  

Markle
Mr_YinYang wrote:

For those of you who can have access to a fide title go that rought instead. USCF in my opinion has a weak title system with little creativity. we got NM(National Master) and LM(Life Master). Life Master is a bit redundeant because after you get your NM title its for life, so why even have a Life Master title? It's very hard to find F.I.D.E tournaments here in the states.  FIDE is more well known even here and people with a 2500 rating im sure would want GrandMaster instead of the weak ,redundent title name Life Master. I think it sucks americans have to struggle to find FIDE tournaments. Noone really cares or knows what a Life Master is in chess. If you think Im being rude. How many LM's do you see on here vs Gm's?

If i am not mistaken most of the big tourn. in the US are FIDE rated if you play in the Open section. At least you live in New York where you have much more opportunities to play then WV where i live. If i wish to play a lot i am constantly driving a few hours.

TheOldReb
Mr_YinYang wrote:

For those of you who can have access to a fide title go that rought instead. USCF in my opinion has a weak title system with little creativity. we got NM(National Master) and LM(Life Master). Life Master is a bit redundeant because after you get your NM title its for life, so why even have a Life Master title? It's very hard to find F.I.D.E tournaments here in the states.  FIDE is more well known even here and people with a 2500 rating im sure would want GrandMaster instead of the weak ,redundent title name Life Master. I think it sucks americans have to struggle to find FIDE tournaments. Noone really cares or knows what a Life Master is in chess. If you think Im being rude. How many LM's do you see on here vs Gm's?

I think you dont understand at all what it takes/means to be a " life master " in the USA .  Just google it and you will see there is quite a difference between life master and national master . There is also the senior master title in the US ( USCF ) . 

TheOldReb
GreedyPawnGrabber wrote:

In some places such as Trinidad and Tobago or Papua you can be National Master with 1700 FIDE.

Do you have a source for this ?  

Mr_YinYang

markle, yes i am fortunate i live where they actually hold tournaments. I know in MOST places FIDE never shows up. Unless your willing to spend too much money traveling to an event. then the next best thing is the ICCF. they award FM, IM and GM titles. 

Nm Reb, I do understand the difference. 24-29 games at 2200 makes you a NM. The rules are slightly more complicated for LM, but pretty much the same but instead you need 28-29 games at 2500 or over with 6-8 norms( mas is 3 norms a year you are allowed to enter or 1 Norm every 6 months.)or if you reach a very very high elo they will give you Life Master. Or lets say you win the World Individual Cup...etc my point is the NAME is silly because National Master means you are a Master in your nation FOR LIFE after 28 games above 2200 and Life Master means your are a master in your nation after 28 games above 2500 6-8 norms( 1 every 6 months only)....for Life. I am very sorry if I offended you NM reb. I have complete respect for your level of talent, I'm just frustrated we cannot find FIDE games here in America,the land of opportunity or many of them. And our title system is silly, though National Master makes sense, actually they should just change Life Master and create another Title in between the two.

TheGreatOogieBoogie

You don't just have to obtain the rating but also defeat a certain number of people with that title as norms.  Then again if you obtain the rating in the first place then getting some wins against those of the same rating shouldn't be hard (for someone that good anyway). 

Mr_YinYang

Yes your are correct. I said at 2200 or 2500 i forgot to say or above.