How much tactic training should you do per day?

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riv4l

Ideally, how much and how many hours?

Cynicalism

Magnus carlsen trains for around 30 hours a day, so you should at least train for 25 hours a day to be even decent.

riv4l
Cynicalism wrote:

Magnus carlsen trains for around 30 hours a day, so you should at least train for 25 hours a day to be even decent.

I doubt that since I've watched every video he's ever been in and he hasn't mentioned 30 hours and I highly doubt you spoke to Magnus.

richb8888

it's a game have fun-you make it sound like the olympics

Cynicalism
Riv4L wrote:
Cynicalism wrote:

Magnus carlsen trains for around 30 hours a day, so you should at least train for 25 hours a day to be even decent.

I doubt that since I've watched every video he's ever been in and he hasn't mentioned 30 hours and I highly doubt you spoke to Magnus.

I'm friends with his sister. He trains for 30 hours a day.

riv4l
richb8888 wrote:

it's a game have fun-you make it sound like the olympics

Not possible, my goal is not to have fun.

riv4l
Cynicalism wrote:
Riv4L wrote:
Cynicalism wrote:

Magnus carlsen trains for around 30 hours a day, so you should at least train for 25 hours a day to be even decent.

I doubt that since I've watched every video he's ever been in and he hasn't mentioned 30 hours and I highly doubt you spoke to Magnus.

I'm friends with his sister. He trains for 30 hours a day.

Nice trolling. 

baddogno

IM Pruess feels that you can only absorb two or three new patterns a day so anything beyond 10 or 15 minutes is a waste of time.  

http://danheisman.home.comcast.net/~danheisman/Lessons/zadult_guide3.html#Preuss

riv4l
baddogno wrote:

IM Pruess feels that you can only absorb two or three new patterns a day so anything beyond 10 or 15 minutes is a waste of time.  

http://danheisman.home.comcast.net/~danheisman/Lessons/zadult_guide3.html#Preuss

THANKs that's what i was looking for. 

baddogno

You're welcome, but realize that not everyone buys that theory, and even though you may not be learning new patterns, you're still getting better at board vision if you practice longer.

riv4l
baddogno wrote:

You're welcome, but realize that not everyone buys that theory, and even though you may not be learning new patterns, you're still getting better at board vision if you practice longer.

How much longer? because I'm tryign to figure out how much time I can allocate all my daily activities. I can't really spend hours on tactics. 

baddogno

I don't know.  I try to split my tactics study between reviewing tactics courses on the Chess Mentor and then testing myself on the Tactics Trainer.

riv4l
baddogno wrote:

I don't know.  I try to split my tactics study between reviewing tactics courses on the Chess Mentor and then testing myself on the Tactics Trainer.

So you apply what you're learning from chess mentor to tactics trainer and not just go headon to tactic trainer and doing nonstop of that? Thats pretty interesting. I should utilize mentor.

 

WOW you've done 2800+ lessons. You are using this site mainly for the mentor. 

Trapper4

As much as you can, and as much you think you should

baddogno

The time pressure on the TT throws me off so I actually find the Chess Mentor tactics courses more valuable.  There are enough of them that you won't get bored.  Of course I'm old so what kind of works for me may not for you.  I do know that Coach Heisman is real big on learning basic patterns. His suggestion is to use Bain's Chess Tactics for Students and review it over and over again until you recognize the patterns almost instantly when you see them.  That's a very different level from being able to figure them out.  I'm just trying to do the same thing using the tactics courses on ChessMentor.

Cindy2014
Riv4L wrote:
baddogno wrote:

IM Pruess feels that you can only absorb two or three new patterns a day so anything beyond 10 or 15 minutes is a waste of time.  

http://danheisman.home.comcast.net/~danheisman/Lessons/zadult_guide3.html#Preuss

THANKs that's what i was looking for. 

Actually that is not true. It would depend on your age etc.

But in the book "pump up your rating," it is clear that a GM in order to raise his level of 100 rating points, began doing 100 positions a day, up to 1000. Buy the book, it is explained better.

riv4l
Cindy2014 wrote:
Riv4L wrote:
baddogno wrote:

IM Pruess feels that you can only absorb two or three new patterns a day so anything beyond 10 or 15 minutes is a waste of time.  

http://danheisman.home.comcast.net/~danheisman/Lessons/zadult_guide3.html#Preuss

THANKs that's what i was looking for. 

Actually that is not true. It would depend on your age etc.

But in the book "pump up your rating," it is clear that a GM in order to raise his level of 100 rating points, began doing 100 positions a day, up to 1000. Buy the book, it is explained better.

damn it.

RobbieCoull

I've done 23,000 tactics in tactics trainer over 3 years since I started playing chess seriously.  I started out around 900, climbed over time, then hit a plateau around 1400 for a while, but doing around 200-400 tactics daily (3 - 6 hours a day) for a month helped me get over that plateau and up to my current mid to high 1600s.   

 

Preuss is referring to the research that we can only transfer so much info from short term memory to long term memory per day, so learning patterns takes practice spread over a large number of days.  Having said that, it takes around 10,000 hours to reach mastery of any major skill (3,000 hours for expertise) so brute force has its merits.  Silman reports spending hours each day running quickly though GM games (up to 100 a day I think he says).  

 

ps: My hamster used to date Magnus Carlsen's hamster, and she told me that he told her that Carlson told him that he only does 29 hours of tactics training a day.

TomasJonsun

Hey man, I haven't been playing for too long and improved by ensuring I did an hour tactics a day, if you're limited with the free member tactics on chess.com, chesstempo is also a very good website for tactics.

SonOfThunder2

I would do just 5 tactics.  When you lose 200 points of your rating you wish you stopped when you could.