How strong is Chessmaster 10th Edition?

Compared to Chess.com, USCF, FIDE..etc how strong is chessmaster 10th edition?

For instance, do the computer characters actually play at the strength of the ratings they have on chessmaster? You can play rated games and tournaments against computer characters and you earn a rating yourself.

Its not only about the program you are using, your computers speed allso effects the overall strenght of the play. But with current computers, it should play with the strenght of an GM. The ratings given to the characters are just estimations, and not very accurate ones. On my own computer i can beat the 1800 rated players constantly, while in reallife I get my ass kicked by 1800 ELO rated players.

I was wondering because I played a game on chessmaster against a 1600 something rated character and it made some pretty bad moves. It even traded a piece for a pawn just to get rid of doubled pawns. I used that extra piece advantage to win. I never see 1600's do that on chess.com. They also don't leave their knights out to be food to creat doubled pawns to wreak their end game. It also hung a couple of pawn in the end game and the program won't resign. I really thrashed it.

I have discovered the rating game is a complex one especially as it depends on the conditions of play, the time allowed ect. 

Do not take too much notice of ratings infact Bill Walls advice is never look at opponents rating until the game is over, and it is true such information can affect your play considerably.  

Personally I believe there is an obsession with ratings. I know my own limitations very well and I'm not ashamed of them.

I can for instance solve nearly all two move mates from the diagram but very few three move ones without a board and pieces.

The chessmaster is a wonderful piece of equipment and the characters are great fun to play but don't take it too seriously.

Thanks! I really like reading your posts. You always give good solid advice. I respect your views.

Great post Glenn spot on actually.  OTB means more than online or playing silcon in any case!

ChessMaster is plenty strong enuff for the likes of you...and me! Concentrate on improving your game with it instead of worrying about the accuracy of its ratings.

please stop talking about chessmaster 10. why not have the latest and greatest 11.

on my computer Chessmaster® Grandmaster Edition is powered by version 3.50 of The King chess engine. On this system, Chess master is rated at 2999 U.S.

I think the reason you can easily beat the lower rated players in cm is that it will give you some sort of edge to simulate a lower rating and if you are suddenly a piece up it is basically trading down all the time till you won.

Fischer is Fischer but a knight is knight.

being a knight up you can win against many opponents I guess.

however I like that it never resign. So I have to prove that I can win a piece up.

I didn't know there was a chessmaster 11. Thanks for the info.

http://chessmaster.us.ubi.com/xi/whatsNew.php

   I found CM 11 too glitchy and CM 10 for me, I've had it for 7 years and I have Win 7, is incredibly stable. It's pretty much the same thing but just with an updated engine and updated use for Vista/7. Even so, my Chessmaster "personality" is over 3000 while my Fritz 12 program is over 3100. Both programs are awesome imo and I've learned so much more with both of them and if you throw Chessbase 11 on top of that since they're compatible with that program PGN wise, it's awesome!

  -Mark

I just beat a rating of 1700 in Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition. My rating is between 1350-1450 in chess.com. So my guess is your real rating is your Chessmaster Rating minus 300-350.

I do not agree. The thing with chessmaster is that to play with a rating e.g. 1700 the computer character that plays 1700 may make a mistake or hang a piece. if you understand to take advantage of a computer opponents mistake it is very easy to win. In addition to that you may sometimes play with a rating +300 yourself. Another factor that is very important is time How much time to give the computer to calculate moves. just giving the computer 10 minutes for the whole game it won't perform that strong as when you give it 60 minutes for the whole game.

CM is going to be around 2700, give or take.  at full strength, the engine is a virtual can of whoop-booty.  sure, there are other engines that are stronger, but there aren't very many human players that are.  :)

I think the same goes for human opponents. If you understand to take advantage of a human opponent, which is equal to an increase in your rating, it is very easy to win. However, I agree that there is a logic behind the wrong moves of the computer. But it is similar to the case that when you are studying with tactics trainer you know that there is a good move and you can find it if you focus. Maybe Chessmaster makes the mistakes too obvious compared to an human opponent.

When it comes to time, I think it is the same with human opponents. 10 minutes or 60 minutes, will effect their play.

I'm with bobbyDK and say get Chessmaster XI.  I personally haven't noticed any bugs or glitches in the program and am running Windows 7.  Perhaps they got all the bugs worked out by the time I got it, which was earlier this year.  I downloaded it from Ubisoft for $20.

The only thing about downloading the program is that you don't get any installation disks in case your computer crashes.  I saved the installation files to a flash drive so I can reinstall if the need arises.

Chess master gm edition is mochary. I have beatin every single bot up to 2100 lvl but am only ranked 1250 against human players. My rating in that game is around 1900 against those bots... big difference. I also played the intermediate study serious, which evaluates all of your skills from, tactics, checkmates, strategy ect... In every single skill set I am ranked above 1600. Then I go and play a game against a human way lower then what my strength indicates.. and get my butt kicked...chess master gm is good for raising your self esteem maybe but has nothing to do with rating accuracy.

Yeah, just have fun with it. Don't expect it to be super accurate.

I've found it to be quite the opposite. My USCF and chess.com live rating seems to hang out in the 1500's, while my chessmaster rating is in the 1300's. Some days I can beat the higher rated players, but others the lower rated players never make a mistake, or they will make a mistake and I'll be a piece up, then they play like a GM the rest of the game.  

I've notices that as well while I can sometimes beat 1700 rated chessmaster players I have had my lunch handed to me by the 1200 waitzkin character.... after beating the 1300 and 1400 versions... I have a grudge against the 1200 because the W/L is in his favor... think its called like Josh Age 6 or some garbage which just makes it more infuriating.... also my real life USCF rating hovers about 200 points higher than my chessmaster rating because of things like this and because when I play it I often play characters well out of my league