how the Russians play chess differently

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lewbergosis
I'm from UK and I have a Russian friend who told me Russians have a unique way of looking at chess , he tried to explain it to me and I didn't really understand, could somebody please tell me if there is actually a difference in chess concepts between russian and English theory and if so what is the difference ?:)
PromisingPawns

Yeah, I heard the same. They have a bit of different raw understanding that they call "The Russian School of Chess"

PromisingPawns

If you ever get a old Russian coach with a good strength, you shall not have to look anywhere else for coaching.

lewbergosis

So there definitely is a difference then and my friend wasn't talking out of his unmentionables

lewbergosis

But out of curiosity what is the difference between the Russian school and the regular one

Ethan_Brollier

Russian 16-yo 2200: No I do not play chess. I am still beginner, I only know 91% of all thematic endgames and how to put them into practice them perfectly in deep time pressure.

Western 16-yo 1200: Yeah I play chess, I’m actually really good. I even figured out how to beat the Fried Liver Attack by playing the Scandinavian.

Ethan_Brollier
lewbergosis wrote:

But out of curiosity what is the difference between the Russian school and the regular one

Pretty much that the Russian school of chess is just shoving fundamentals so far down your throat you’ll LITERALLY never forget them. Like ever. There’s no fancy stuff, no gambits, no ultra-tactical ultra-theoretical engine-level opening knowledge, you just sit there, learn, and practice.

lewbergosis

So really it's just train hard

brianchesscake

You have to drink a bottle of vodka before playing if you want to learn the Russian secrets of chess.

1Lindamea1
In my chess club there is an old russian guy. He told me that caro kann tartakower is bad because black has less pawns on the queenside, and he doesn’t care that someone can have a 70% win rate with it
blueemu

There's an old book, The Soviet School of Chess by Kotov and Yudovich, that asserted that the Russians had a different way of looking at the game.

The claim is about 90% propaganda, though.

... although that still leaves about 10% truth in it, I suppose.

marqumax
The difference in approach to chess by Russian school of chess and the western ways of perceiving chess is the approach to principles.

Western chess players emphasise that success in chess comes down to excellent opening preparation and most importantly to one’s ability to calculate. Principles take a secondary role for the westerners since every position is unique and concrete and only by the means of exhaustive analysis through calculation we can attain the truth of the position and outplay our opponents.

Russian chess school on the other hand is based on a thorough understanding of chess principles and playing them at every juncture of a chess game. While mistakes can happen due to being dogmatic with those principles, they argue that it doesn’t matter since most of the time the principles do work in their favour, saving energy not having to outcalculate the opponent on every move. Openings also take a secondary role for the Russians, as they argue that one should always prioritize the endgame to gain a better fundemantal understanding of how chess actually works.

Both approaches are decent. I personally prefer the western one: monster opening preparation and outcalculating my opponents. I’ve had better results with it over the board, but anyone should pick their way.
1Lindamea1
Can you mix both tho? Having a monster opening prep and spending crazy amount of time calculating sertain moves while falling back on principles during relatively peaceful game stages?
marqumax
Yes of course a good chess player always has a good understanding of principles. But it’s about the subtle difference in what is the key factor in making decisions. Principles or concrete variations
1Lindamea1
marqumax написал:
The difference in approach to chess by Russian school of chess and the western ways of perceiving chess is the approach to principles.
Western chess players emphasise that success in chess comes down to excellent opening preparation and most importantly to one’s ability to calculate. Principles take a secondary role for the westerners since every position is unique and concrete and only by the means of exhaustive analysis through calculation we can attain the truth of the position and outplay our opponents.
Russian chess school on the other hand is based on a thorough understanding of chess principles and playing them at every juncture of a chess game. While mistakes can happen due to being dogmatic with those principles, they argue that it doesn’t matter since most of the time the principles do work in their favour, saving energy not having to outcalculate the opponent on every move. Openings also take a secondary role for the Russians, as they argue that one should always prioritize the endgame to gain a better fundemantal understanding of how chess actually works.
Both approaches are decent. I personally prefer the western one: monster opening preparation and outcalculating my opponents. I’ve had better results with it over the board, but anyone should pick their way.

Yes, that's how that old man plays. He never spends more than 10 seconds on one move and always says stuff like "I shouldn't tear apart the last line, i have a hole here, pawn majority here la la la i gotta play ta ta ta"

AngryPuffer

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darlihysa

English school, dutch school or Fide, russian chinese child school are very different from each other!! English school for example teaches tactics or long line of progressing attack. Dutch school propaganda is all about gambits or kamikaze attcks. While russian school is based on the strategy or how to stop the madness on the board!!

Abby_XD01

I dont even know how to play chess.. im just learning

blueemu
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Those guys should be falling out the window behind them as Putin passes.

1Lindamea1
Are you sure you are ukrainian?