How To Become A Chess Grandmaster

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Charlie101

I was investigating the nuances on becoming a GM. I am an FM with a FIDE rating of 2287.

after reading this article: https://www.chess.com/article/view/how-to-become-a-chess-grandmaster

I wanted to see how hard it would be to have a 2600 performance and find events where you could compete, etc etc.

Well everyone knows about the events in Budapest every first saturday at http://www.firstsaturday.hu/1812/index.htm

this is a cross table of their events for GMs:

http://chess-results.com/tnr396836.aspx?lan=1&art=1&flag=30

Basically, to make a GM norm you have to make 7.0 points out of 9.0 to make a GM norm, atleast with that crosstable to have the 2600 performance needed by FIDE to make the norm.

this is quite frankly difficult. what we appreciate is that now we understand what a 2600 performance is.

to appreciate how hard that is,: your playing 9 players: three 2500's, three 2400's, and three 2300's

which means, you have to beat the 2300's (3pts)

beat the 2400's (3pts)

and draw two 2500's, or beat one, and lose versus the rest to make a total of 7.0 pts at the event.

Pretty insane right?

it possible for a 2300 FM to beat three 2300's and three 2400's with training and preparation, but the 2500's performance adds an element of luck to the formula. In other words, performing versus the  2500's is more complicated.

Charlie101

so its very possible to be IM, but it takes more effort, preparation, luck and I would say a number of events to be a GM and have the 2600 performance.

What I mean is that, if your IM strength, or something that would score 5.0 to 6.5 points all the time in a event with a cross table like the one above, it would mean that if you play 50 to 100 tournaments in a 10 year time period, you could become GM.

stiggling
CharlieDroids wrote:

What I mean is that, if your IM strength, or something that would score 5.0 to 6.5 points all the time in a event with a cross table like the one above, it would mean that if you play 50 to 100 tournaments in a 10 year time period, you could become GM.

IIRC norms expire. You can't get a GM title by earning 3 norms over a period of 10 years.

Also, I know OTB ratings and online speed chess ratings are not the same, but considering your ratings I wonder how you got your FM title. Did you win some national tournament of a small island nation when you were 8?

Laskersnephew

You have to be very, very strong to be a weak GM! If you are a strong IM, it seems to me that you also need a little luck to get those precious GM norms. You have to hope that your best performances come in tournaments where you can get norms, instead of wasting your best play in Swiss tournaments where there are no norms to be had, I think Ben Finegold was the strongest IM in the world for quite a few years until he managed to play his best in the right events and get his norms

drmrboss

Please read wikihow.

Follow this 7 steps.

You will be a GM.

https://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Grandmaster

 

 

bong711

You can be a GM, OP. Your chances are realistic compare to wannabes. I'm betting on you.

Charlie101

this is true. I just wanted to talk about how hard it is to score 7 points!! versus three 2500's three 2400's and three 2300's!!

Charlie101

unfortunately that might be true.

I also want you to know that I saw those challenges a long time ago, and I talked about becoming "A digital grandmaster" which is someone that has a +2400 performance in the 5-min pool on the ICC or internet chess club. a +2500 performance is hard but it is certainly the skill level.

kaspariano

 

In my Opinion, we internet chess players should not worry about how to become a regular chess grandmaster.  We have our own grandmasters to emulate and try to reach, and those are the ones who are in the top 1% of all online players, they usually have blitz or rapid online ratings above 2050.  If you are one of them, in my eyes you are a grandmaster, and the reason for it is simple: most chess games nowadays are played online, not in OTB tournaments.  We shouldn't keep putting OTB FIDE tournaments and Titles in a pedestal anymore, now we have the internet, and we should know better than keep believing that performances for chess titles established by FIDE is what really tell you who the best among us are.  Again if you are in the Top 1% of all online players (either in blitz or rapid) you are one of the best chess players in the world period.

kaspariano
DeirdreSkye wrote:
kaspariano wrote:

 

In my Opinion, we internet chess players should not worry about how to become a regular chess grandmaster.  We have our own grandmasters to emulate and try to reach, and those are the ones who are in the top 1% of all online players, they usually have a blitz or rapid online ratings above 2050.  If you are one of them, in my eyes you are a grandmaster, and the reason for it is simple: most chess games nowadays are played online, not in OTB tournaments.  We shouldn't keep putting OTB FIDE tournaments and Titles in a pedestal anymore, now we have the internet, and we should know better than keep believing that performances for chess titles established by FIDE is what really tell you who the best among us are.  Again if you are in the Top 1% of all online players (either in blitz or rapid) you are one of the best chess players in the world period.

       Man , it is funny how desperately you want to be called " good player".Of course on line games are more than OTB game as any impecible can play online. Unfortunately for you real chess is and always was FIDE chess. No one really cares for on line chess.

 

 

No I don't, My blitz and rapid ratings are not above 2050, I am far from being one of the best chess players in the world.

By the way, FIDE only have 170000 active players, the internet has millions.  Do the math.

 

kaspariano
DeirdreSkye wrote:
kaspariano wrote:
DeirdreSkye wrote:
kaspariano wrote:

 

In my Opinion, we internet chess players should not worry about how to become a regular chess grandmaster.  We have our own grandmasters to emulate and try to reach, and those are the ones who are in the top 1% of all online players, they usually have a blitz or rapid online ratings above 2050.  If you are one of them, in my eyes you are a grandmaster, and the reason for it is simple: most chess games nowadays are played online, not in OTB tournaments.  We shouldn't keep putting OTB FIDE tournaments and Titles in a pedestal anymore, now we have the internet, and we should know better than keep believing that performances for chess titles established by FIDE is what really tell you who the best among us are.  Again if you are in the Top 1% of all online players (either in blitz or rapid) you are one of the best chess players in the world period.

       Man , it is funny how desperately you want to be called " good player".Of course on line games are more than OTB game as any impecible can play online. Unfortunately for you real chess is and always was FIDE chess. No one really cares for on line chess.

 

No I don't, My blitz and rapid ratings are not above 2050, I am far from being one of the best chess players in the world.

By the way, FIDE only have 170000 active players, the internet has millions.  Do the math.

 

     Yet if you go to any chess club with an on-line rating and an on-line title , they recognise none and you will start from 1200 , just like anyone else.In chess clubs you will be forced to play in the lower tournaments(C-class) first.

     That is what your on line rating worths out there in the real world. Do the math!

 

Why would I want to go to A club to play among only at most 60 people when I can compete among millions of people online?  Your club rating means nothing to me. 

StinkingHyena

Something weird about the new crop of wunderkids, I saw one that became a GM with under 200 published games, and those were against opponents I had never heard of. I assume its because I hadnt been keeping track of Asian GMs. How many are there now?

Charlie101
StinkingHyena wrote:

Something weird about the new crop of wunderkids, I saw one that became a GM with under 200 published games, and those were against opponents I had never heard of. I assume its because I hadnt been keeping track of Asian GMs. How many are there now?

I am not sure but I think there is still less than 2,000.