How to know my ELO level in chess.com?

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oariasz

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notmtwain
oariasz wrote:

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oariasz

There are different levels there.  Those are not ELO levels.

blueemu
oariasz wrote:

There are different levels there.  Those are not ELO levels.

chess.com doesn't use Elo. It uses Glicko 2.

Google it.

notmtwain
oariasz wrote:

There are different levels there.  Those are not ELO levels.

Elo ratings are a system for rating developed by Arpad Elo. Chess.com does not use it. Elo is  a name and not an abbreviation and should therefore not be capitalized.

Chess.com uses a Glicko system developed by Mark Glickman, who found flaws with the Elo system. He reasoned that rating accuracy declines with the passage of time and improves with greater activity.  You can read more about it.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-ratings---how-they-work

oariasz

Thank you all for your answers.

Gwayyee

Why I cannot see my elo when I playing chess?

Gwayyee

Thanks

KeSetoKaiba
Gwayyee wrote:

Why I cannot see my elo when I playing chess?

Your rating isn't visible in live chess until you've completed at least 5 chess games (even if mix of time controls) and then after this it shows your rating near your username in live chess.

blueemu
chess20202021 wrote:

my percentile is above 60% . How good it is?

It means that 60% of the registered users are weaker than you.

nagashailesh

change of topic but 1200 is good man it not "beginner player"

BigChessplayer665
nagashailesh wrote:

change of topic but 1200 is good man it not "beginner player"

Begginer intermediate ish

punchdrunkpatzer

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

BigChessplayer665
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

I wouldn't call it stronger than in intermediate 1600 is more of an "advanced " level but 1600 isn't even good enough to be considered an expert (even if they are good ) at least a deffinently didn't think I was an expert at 1600 elo ..

punchdrunkpatzer
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

I wouldn't call it stronger than in intermediate 1600 is more of an "advanced " level but 1600 isn't even good enough to be considered an expert (even if they are good ) at least a deffinently didn't think I was an expert at 1600 elo ..

I'm not sure what criteria you use to determine relative strength in chess, but there are so many active players on chess.com that the sampling should give a thorough picture of real-world performance. That is to say, your percentile on chess.com ought to represent your relative playing strength in comparison to all chess players in the world. If the average global rating is 600 or so, that represents intermediate playing strength. 1200 is uite a bit above average.

BigChessplayer665
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

I wouldn't call it stronger than in intermediate 1600 is more of an "advanced " level but 1600 isn't even good enough to be considered an expert (even if they are good ) at least a deffinently didn't think I was an expert at 1600 elo ..

I'm not sure what criteria you use to determine relative strength in chess, but there are so many active players on chess.com that the sampling should give a thorough picture of real-world performance. That is to say, your percentile on chess.com ought to represent your relative playing strength in comparison to all chess players in the world. If the average global rating is 600 or so, that represents intermediate playing strength. 1200 is uite a bit above average.

It is definitely above average but for example on lichess it evens out at around 2100(depending on the person )

On lichess 2150 ish is around the 95 percentile

Chess.com is around 99.5th or more

So you can't really compare based of percentile

But if lichess and chess.com evens out at around 2000-2300 then what gives ?

BigChessplayer665
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

I wouldn't call it stronger than in intermediate 1600 is more of an "advanced " level but 1600 isn't even good enough to be considered an expert (even if they are good ) at least a deffinently didn't think I was an expert at 1600 elo ..

I'm not sure what criteria you use to determine relative strength in chess, but there are so many active players on chess.com that the sampling should give a thorough picture of real-world performance. That is to say, your percentile on chess.com ought to represent your relative playing strength in comparison to all chess players in the world. If the average global rating is 600 or so, that represents intermediate playing strength. 1200 is uite a bit above average.

Percentile should not represent your actual strength thats a bad idea just compare lichess percentile to chess.com percentile....

punchdrunkpatzer
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

I wouldn't call it stronger than in intermediate 1600 is more of an "advanced " level but 1600 isn't even good enough to be considered an expert (even if they are good ) at least a deffinently didn't think I was an expert at 1600 elo ..

I'm not sure what criteria you use to determine relative strength in chess, but there are so many active players on chess.com that the sampling should give a thorough picture of real-world performance. That is to say, your percentile on chess.com ought to represent your relative playing strength in comparison to all chess players in the world. If the average global rating is 600 or so, that represents intermediate playing strength. 1200 is uite a bit above average.

It is definitely above average but for example on lichess it evens out at around 2100(depending on the person )

On lichess 2150 ish is around the 95 percentile

Chess.com is around 99.5th or more

So you can't really compare based of percentile

But if lichess and chess.com evens out at around 2000-2300 then what gives ?

You've got it backwards. Percentile is a more objective measure of performance than rating on either site. The issue is that both sites have different numbers of active players. Chess.com has a much more active playerbase and numerous playerbase, hence chess.com's percentile measures closer to real-world expectations than Lichess.

BigChessplayer665
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

I wouldn't call it stronger than in intermediate 1600 is more of an "advanced " level but 1600 isn't even good enough to be considered an expert (even if they are good ) at least a deffinently didn't think I was an expert at 1600 elo ..

I'm not sure what criteria you use to determine relative strength in chess, but there are so many active players on chess.com that the sampling should give a thorough picture of real-world performance. That is to say, your percentile on chess.com ought to represent your relative playing strength in comparison to all chess players in the world. If the average global rating is 600 or so, that represents intermediate playing strength. 1200 is uite a bit above average.

It is definitely above average but for example on lichess it evens out at around 2100(depending on the person )

On lichess 2150 ish is around the 95 percentile

Chess.com is around 99.5th or more

So you can't really compare based of percentile

But if lichess and chess.com evens out at around 2000-2300 then what gives ?

You've got it backwards. Percentile is a more objective measure of performance than rating on either site. The issue is that both sites have different numbers of active players. Chess.com has a much more active playerbase and numerous playerbase, hence chess.com's percentile measures closer to real-world expectations than Lichess.

It still isn't compared to actual otb players 1200 is more of a low intermediate ish

Just because "most " people are 600 that doesn't make someone an expert just because they are better than everyone else expecalt when considering (most ) experts are at least around 2000 elo aka titled players

punchdrunkpatzer
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
punchdrunkpatzer wrote:

Considering the sheer number of users on Chess.com and that 1200 roughly corresponds to the 90th percentile of online time controls, I think it can be considered at least intermediate if not stronger.

I wouldn't call it stronger than in intermediate 1600 is more of an "advanced " level but 1600 isn't even good enough to be considered an expert (even if they are good ) at least a deffinently didn't think I was an expert at 1600 elo ..

I'm not sure what criteria you use to determine relative strength in chess, but there are so many active players on chess.com that the sampling should give a thorough picture of real-world performance. That is to say, your percentile on chess.com ought to represent your relative playing strength in comparison to all chess players in the world. If the average global rating is 600 or so, that represents intermediate playing strength. 1200 is uite a bit above average.

Percentile should not represent your actual strength thats a bad idea just compare lichess percentile to chess.com percentile....

There really isn't any issue with lichess's percentile as a measure of playing strength on lichess. You can't compare the point values across sites because they use different rating systems.