How to lower one's ego.

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ABC_of_EVERYTHING

I dream that  i am strong in some field except chess.  Yet,  when i play chess in midst of battle i begin to develop a boasting ego about my ability.  I begin to think i can take any pain during the game since i am such a strong man. This has resulted that i play only with myself during some phase of the game without thinking that my opponent is stronger. I forget that chess is a better between two mind. How to lower such ego? It is something to do with maturity or age? If that ego goes out of my body and mind,  what type of person do you think i will end up becoming?    Any opinion? 

blueemu

A chess player NEEDS to have a strong ego. A chess game is (in part) a battle of wills, a struggle between two personalities. A person with a fragile ego will not succeed in forcing his will on his opponent.

Having said that... it is also necessary to maintain a sense of reality and a degree of detachment. You cannot afford to confuse your own hopes and aspirations with the cold facts of the position in front of you.

ABC_of_EVERYTHING

Maybe,  that's why i shout sometime with no valid reason. Guess i was at that moment too excited to know minute detail. 

ABC_of_EVERYTHING

yeah, if it is life, if you cannot fight, you have to make way for you to run continuously for survival. I learn that from studying chess. But that's not what is generally shown in movie. There they show if you cannot fight you die. 

donnelleraeburn

chess is a game of war... having a low ego will not only make you lose the battle but you would lose the war and everyone you love. from the queen that was eaten by a pawn on c7

ABC_of_EVERYTHING

According to me ego is 10%, concept is 40%,and skill is 50% sums up the whole game. And i don't know what i meant by skill. I just heard it here and there and put it here. 

Sillver1
blueemu wrote:

A chess player NEEDS to have a strong ego. A chess game is (in part) a battle of wills, a struggle between two personalities. A person with a fragile ego will not succeed in forcing his will on his opponent.

Having said that... it is also necessary to maintain a sense of reality and a degree of detachment. You cannot afford to confuse your own hopes and aspirations with the cold facts of the position in front of you.

There's a difference between ego and self esteem.

donnelleraeburn

Sillver1 wrote:

blueemu wrote:

A chess player NEEDS to have a strong ego. A chess game is (in part) a battle of wills, a struggle between two personalities. A person with a fragile ego will not succeed in forcing his will on his opponent.

Having said that... it is also necessary to maintain a sense of reality and a degree of detachment. You cannot afford to confuse your own hopes and aspirations with the cold facts of the position in front of you.

There's a difference between ego and self esteem.

yes self esteem is what keeps your will and confidence while ego can be altered and blind your judgement in certain situations. like a double edged blade.. said from the bishop that was eaten by knight on h8

delcarpenter

I think chess isn't about the general strength or weakness of the players.  What counts the most in chess, and what gives the most happiness in life is understanding.  As you progress in life you'll understand more and more, what you encounter is usually not about you.  No matter how brilliant your chess play is, winning depends on having an opponent who makes more important mistakes than you do.   You may be superior to most people.  Understand what you are might depend as much on what you were given as on your effort.  A high intelligence quotient (IQ) is wonderful in many things; a high emotional intelligence (sometimes called EQ) is equally useful.  A high ability to love (sometimes called LQ) combined with a high EQ is more likely to produce happiness than a high IQ.   

IMKeto

It sounds like what the OP is describing is self-esteem (or lack of), and not ego.

ChessSweetheartDimples
delcarpenter wrote:

I think chess isn't about the general strength or weakness of the players.  What counts the most in chess, and what gives the most happiness in life is understanding.  As you progress in life you'll understand more and more, what you encounter is usually not about you.  No matter how brilliant your chess play is, winning depends on having an opponent who makes more important mistakes than you do.   You may be superior to most people.  Understand what you are might depend as much on what you were given as on your effort.  A high intelligence quotient (IQ) is wonderful in many things; a high emotional intelligence (sometimes called EQ) is equally useful.  A high ability to love (sometimes called LQ) combined with a high EQ is more likely to produce happiness than a high IQ.   

This is very good.

Imo, @ABC_of_EVERYTHING , if you let that mindset go it might even improve your playing ability as it could cloud your judgement.

You need to have the mindset that anything could happen in any game and you need to be prepared for that even when you play someone several hundred ELO's below you, you will experience less pain when you loose with this mindset than with the ego as you have already accepted the fact that you could loose in any particular game. But always try your best of course

The ego might have something to do with your childhood as well maybe due to the environmental experiences making you feel like 'you can take any pain because you are a strong man', but, Imo, I'm sure that those who have ego's will experience events that will make them realize and understand, or it will make the ego much worse

So if you can manage to lower your ego it will good for you as you will be able to handle life problems much easier with less stress

Zardorian
Self-esteem and ego are inversely related. The higher your ego the lower your self-esteem and vice versa. You can’t have too much self-esteem (that’s like saying you can have too much health), but you can have too high an ego; an overinflated ego. There are plenty of books on the topic, but typically what you’ll find is, people with over inflated egos are very easy to anger. Something has caused their self-esteem to drop so low (and their egos to become so overinflated) that they pretty much become lost in their egos.

What can cause your self-esteem to drop? When you do something bad, this weighs on your conscience...Your self-esteem drops. For example, if you steal something, or do something very immoral, You start to become very sensitive to things; you start to worry that people know about the bad things you’ve done. That’s your self-esteem dropping and your ego rising.

How do you fix it? Well again there are books on the topic, but what is typically prescribed is choosing to do something good without receiving credit for it. For example, working anonymously for a soup kitchen helps. Many people in the entertainment business develop huge egos, because let’s face it the entertainment business is all about image, and when you focus solely on your image, your ego inflates, which causes your self-esteem to drop terribly and there have been plenty of stories of these people going and working in soup kitchens or other volunteer scenarios to help heal their self-esteem issues. But again, anonymously. That’s the key.

And here’s a test: does the idea of working anonymously for good sound just crazy to you? I mean, aren’t you thinking, “but who’s gonna know the good I’m doing?“ That’s your inflated ego talking. That’s you wanting recognition; that’s you thinking, “look at me look at me look at me.” Ego.
Zardorian
So again, to answer the question of this post, “how to lower ones ego”: choose to do something good anonymously. I promise you, that will lower your ego and increase your self-esteem.
Zardorian
That’s not to say that ego is bad completely. Going back to the entertainer context; it’s good to have some degree of ego, as Johnny Carson has said actually, in the entertainment business because it will help you perform. It can help you on stage.
ABC_of_EVERYTHING

Everybody, thanks for your post. I learn a lot what you said in this thread.