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f4ucorsair

I am attempting to register my school for a chess tournament (NYC Mayor's Cup), but as my school has never had a chess club before, none of us are rated. I need to find out how to 1 register us with the USCF and 2 get us an FIDE rating. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

MervynS

I don't know much about the USCF, but in Canada, our federation can calculate, with at least one rated player in the tournament, the rating performance and provisional ratings of all the rest of the unrated players.

To get a FIDE rating, a tournament has to be registered with FIDE, which has additional rules.

Might be best to contact the USCF directly:
http://www.uschess.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,327/

Martin_Stahl

Based on the information on their Facebook page for the chess event, each player that registers has to have a rating of at least 600 to play. To get a rating your players have to join the USCF and then play in tournaments.

It doesn't say if that rating can be provisional or not, but I would assume it can. So, get the players you want to take/register to join the USCF (https://secure2.uschess.org/webstore/member.php) and then enter a rated tournament (or tournaments). I would suggest at least one tourney of 4 rounds (to get the base provisional rating). Then once they have that, you will be able to see if they qualify to even enter based on their rating.

As mentioned, to get a FIDE rating you have play in FIDE rated events and score well against FIDE rated opponents. Of course, your players will still need to be USCF members.

Based on the information though, you don't have much time. Registration ends on 4/29, entry is limited and first come, first serve.

RonaldJosephCote

             Have you tried Bruce Pandolfini??   Rumor has it, he has some pull with the NY schools.

dashkee94

Go to the USCF webpage; under Clubs and Tournaments there is a state-by-state listing of clubs and USCF-rated tourneys.  You'll need to get a few tournament games under your belt, both for the rating and the experience.

BTW, I love your user name--the F4U is my favorite prop-driven plane.  Good choice.

f4ucorsair

@MArtin Stahl, so if i was to forget about the mayors cup, and just try to get my guys a rating, how would I do that? just get them signed up for memberships then enter tournaments?

Thanks

Martin_Stahl
f4ucorsair wrote:

@MArtin Stahl, so if i was to forget about the mayors cup, and just try to get my guys a rating, how would I do that? just get them signed up for memberships then enter tournaments?

Thanks

Yep, that's pretty much it. daskee94 pointed you to the right place to look for tourneys too, though if you are in the NYC area, you probably have plenty of choices.

dashkee94

f4u

First, you need to become a USCF member, which you can do at their website (US chess).  Then, enter some tournaments which you can find in the Tounament section of the website.  You won't be able to play without being a member.  This will give you a provisional rating which can be used at USCF events (like the Mayor's Cup).  After 16 games (I think--at least it was 16 back in the 70's when I joined) your rating becomes permanent.  Hope that helps.

RonaldJosephCote

            Don't listen to that OLD guy. You now need 4 games for a rating. The one they give you is provisional, till they complete 4 games in rated tournaments.         (edit)  hey dashkee, now that I have your attention. Have you seen the thread about Crimea. Trysts is scarering the shit out of me. She's all anti-american, the military blah,blah,blah. She's a nice person but give me a break.

dashkee94

Hey geezer, who you callin' old?  ;-)

RonaldJosephCote

                 I got a scholastic rating in 1971. When I got back into it, they pulled it out of the archives, because you can't have 2 ratings. So I gave the USFC my $50 bucks, and they gave me 1260. I've played at Bradley Airport in Hartford twice.

Martin_Stahl
dashkee94 wrote:

f4u

First, you need to become a USCF member, which you can do at their website (US chess).  Then, enter some tournaments which you can find in the Tounament section of the website.  You won't be able to play without being a member.  This will give you a provisional rating which can be used at USCF events (like the Mayor's Cup).  After 16 games (I think--at least it was 16 back in the 70's when I joined) your rating becomes permanent.  Hope that helps.

It currently takes 26 games to no longer have a provisional rating.

RonaldJosephCote

             Thank you Martin, really??  26?  So I'm not a real chess player?  well your just a barrel of sunshine.

pt22064

Some tournaments cap the winnings that a provisional player can receive but generally in the lower rated events, the winnings cap doesn't matter unless you come in first.  The only other impact of having a provisional rating is that they use a different methodology to calculate your ratings change such that your provisional rating can fluctuate much more than a non-provisional under the same circumstances.  I really wouldn't worry about getting to non-provisional status in a hurry.

chasm1995
Martin_Stahl wrote:
dashkee94 wrote:

f4u

First, you need to become a USCF member, which you can do at their website (US chess).  Then, enter some tournaments which you can find in the Tounament section of the website.  You won't be able to play without being a member.  This will give you a provisional rating which can be used at USCF events (like the Mayor's Cup).  After 16 games (I think--at least it was 16 back in the 70's when I joined) your rating becomes permanent.  Hope that helps.

It currently takes 26 games to no longer have a provisional rating.

I guess I have a provisional rating; only 12 tournament games for me.

f4ucorsair

Thanks to all who replied, I am now a USCF member, Can anyone recommend a good beginers tournament in the NYC area? (under1200 rating)

Martin_Stahl

Can't make any recommendations on specific tourneys but there are a lot of tourneys listed on the USCF page: http://www.uschess.org/tlas/upcoming.php?STATE=NY


You'll have to read through those to see what might be close, fit your schedule and look like something that might be good. Or maybe you'll get lucky and someone local will see this and comment.

RonaldJosephCote

               What ever you decide, don't enter an open tourny. Some 1900 will mop the floor with you. That happen to me in Hartford, but. When you get a permanent rating, then enter an open with the intentions of playing against the highest rated players. Analyse THOSE games. It will show you where your making mistakes.

LiaoZWSean

Wait, I'm still a little confused. If a USCF tournament is held at chess.com, how often will the tournament open and what's the name of the USCF tournament?

Martin_Stahl
LiaoZWSean wrote:

Wait, I'm still a little confused. If a USCF tournament is held at chess.com, how often will the tournament open and what's the name of the USCF tournament?

 

That completely depends on the affiliate running events and should be asked to the specific affiliate. For example, the site's affiliate had events 4 days a week and the events show up in the club