I have no talent for chess.

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adorableraccoondog

I have no talent for chess.

Again, I can hardly win.
Is it just that my lack of aptitude for chess has become apparent?

I was taking moves too fast and was advised to do it more slowly, so I followed suit and played a few more games today.

However, it's hard to say that my play has improved greatly, just that my mistakes have decreased somewhat.

It's been almost two months since I started playing chess.
Despite all the hard work I've done with reading, analysis, puzzles, etc., my efforts have never paid off.
No matter how much I learn, I can't seem to make use of my knowledge in actual combat.

Want to know my win rate?
15 out of 40 games.
My ELO will drop below 500 soon too.
Maybe it will drop to 100.

Since I can't improve even if I try every means for improvement,
It's clear that I have no talent for chess.

Many chess masters affirm that hard work always pays off.
It may just be a fairy tale.
At least I didn't improve at all.

Now, in this situation, which of the following options should I choose?

(1) I quit chess completely and never play it again.
(2) I quit playing, but I enjoy watching streamers and collecting chess goods, for example.
(3) I will do my best to enjoy chess regardless of winning or losing or ELO.
     (In that case, I will abandon the improvement)
(4) your own ideas

PerritadePaul

Option 3.

bigbadsquid

"It's been almost two months since I started playing chess"

What do you expect? If you started to play the piano from scratch, where do you think you would be after two months? Why does everything have to be instant these days?

Just enjoy it as another pastime, next to other hobbies you may have.

tygxc

@1

"I have no talent for chess." ++ 'I have only one talent: a talent for hard work' - Kasparov

"I can hardly win" ++ Try to not lose i.e. to avoid mistakes. Wins will follow.

"I was taking moves too fast" ++ Play 15|10 and use all available time.

"my mistakes have decreased somewhat" ++ So you are on the right path.

"No matter how much I learn, I can't seem to make use of my knowledge in actual combat."
++ That what you learn does not happen and when it finally happens you will have forgotten.
That is why it is better to deeply analyse your own lost games.
These situations are likely to come up in your games again.

"Want to know my win rate?" ++ Win rate says nothing. A low win rate against strong opponents may be better than a high win rate against weak opponents. You should aim for a win rate around 50%. A higher win rate indicates your opponents are too weak.
A lower win rate indicates your opponents are too strong.

"My ELO will drop below 500 soon too." ++ A rating of 500 is a sign of frequent blunders. Always check your intended move is no blunder before you play it.
Hang no pieces, hang no pawns. That little mental discipline is enough to reach 1500.

"even if I try every means for improvement" ++ Do you blunder check before moving?

"Many chess masters affirm that hard work always pays off." ++ Yes, but that is above 1500.

"I didn't improve at all." ++ Blunder checking.

"(3) I will do my best to enjoy chess regardless of winning or losing or ELO" ++ Yes.

"In that case, I will abandon the improvement"
++ No, chess becomes more enjoyable if you no longer hang pieces and pawns.

adorableraccoondog

Now enjoy my stupid play.

i hate this bot so much.

 

magipi

The opening poster joined chess.com a week ago, and already started 4 different forum threads plus a blog post about how he is not improving and has no talent. That is quite impressive.

adorableraccoondog
DarkCellen はこう書きました:

Check again before playing moves that are blunders (7.Bf4)..What is the point of 19. d6? Why did you go offensive when you should defend?

あなたが正しいです。
私は何度同じことを言われても上達しない人間です。
いつも衝動的でイライラしやすい。
私はチェスに向いていないのですか?

Kasper_P

I say stick with it. I never played much chess before because I come from a family of very strong players so felt a lot of pressure to be good. About 3 months ago though I just started playing for fun without worrying too much about winning or losing, and it's so much more enjoyable than I expected. It feels now that working your way up the bots just requires eliminating more and more errors, you'll get there.

toxic_internet

Option 3.

Also, you should stop denigrating yourself and your ability.  Words matter and what we say, matters.  You are a bright individual trying to master a difficult game played by exceptionally intelligent people - it's tough.  Self-discipline, patience, and persistence are necessary qualities.

You will get there.  Keep playing.

nooooq213erwfsd

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KingMoored

@tygxc thanks for all your posts (they always help me!) I especially like your Kasparov quote - good stuff!

pvdh_pl

For me personally, chess game is about resolving puzzles - every move is like a small challenge - if you can focus and enjoy this, you will love chess for sure and progress will come happy.png 


PlayByDay

Is this the second Japanese player, and we have others with their "is my iq too low for chess", since december starting the "Omg, I have played chess for whole week, am I doom to fail?" who spends more time one their post than on their games.

Same advise as always: do the lessons and watch any good chess youtube series for beginner to 1000 (and do that a couple times every week on repeat), when you play -> do use your time to look every move "what can I take, what can opponent take, what has changed since last move" and do realize that any change will take at least couple of month of actual work.

BlackaKhan
adorableraccoondog wrote:

Want to know my win rate?
15 out of 40 games.
My ELO will drop below 500 soon too.
Maybe it will drop to 100.

Since I can't improve even if I try every means for improvement,
It's clear that I have no talent for chess.

 

You started playing less than 2 months ago, and joined this site 10 days ago.  Improvement takes more time than that.

Keep playing and practicing for a few more months, learn fundamental tactics like fork and pin and double check, and play slower games (15 minutes or more) so you have time to think.

Lomoin
adorableraccoondog wrote:

I have no talent for chess.

Again, I can hardly win.
Is it just that my lack of aptitude for chess has become apparent?

I was taking moves too fast and was advised to do it more slowly, so I followed suit and played a few more games today.

However, it's hard to say that my play has improved greatly, just that my mistakes have decreased somewhat.

It's been almost two months since I started playing chess.
Despite all the hard work I've done with reading, analysis, puzzles, etc., my efforts have never paid off.
No matter how much I learn, I can't seem to make use of my knowledge in actual combat.

Want to know my win rate?
15 out of 40 games.
My ELO will drop below 500 soon too.
Maybe it will drop to 100.

Since I can't improve even if I try every means for improvement,
It's clear that I have no talent for chess.

Many chess masters affirm that hard work always pays off.
It may just be a fairy tale.
At least I didn't improve at all.

Now, in this situation, which of the following options should I choose?

(1) I quit chess completely and never play it again.
(2) I quit playing, but I enjoy watching streamers and collecting chess goods, for example.
(3) I will do my best to enjoy chess regardless of winning or losing or ELO.
     (In that case, I will abandon the improvement)
(4) your own ideas

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MaetsNori

You say you won 15 out of 40 games.

To me, that's quite impressive.

When I was a beginner, I almost never won a game. Hardly ever. I don't recall my win/loss ratio at this point (we're talking about over 20 years ago), but I would wager a safe guess that I would win 1 game out of every 100 losses.

I eventually accepted that winning should not be my goal. Instead, I focused on improvement. Could I last longer than the previous game, before getting checkmated?

Could I keep my queen alive longer than last week?

Could I possibly win a pawn, at some point? (I remember the excitement I felt when I first won a pawn against my opponent. I was an incredible feeling. Of course, I still lost the game, as I always did ... but I could tell that I was improving, just a bit.)

Over time, my progress became noticable. I lasted longer in games. I gave my opponents more of a challenge. Sometimes, I even managed to reach a draw.

Fast-forward many years, and I now butt heads with titled masters. I still make mistakes, of course. I still lose. But I've improved tremendously, along the way.

My secret? Not giving up. Focusing on improving, not winning.

And trying to learn everything and anything I could about the game ...

punchy_mcbam

I am not a great player, but I do have opinions. 🙂 So, here are some thoughts I would provide:
-Learn the London System opening. The basics are not difficult, and it is defensive, while giving you some opportunities.
-Before each move, try to make sure each of your pieces is protected, and look to see if you are about to be attacked (especially checkmated)
-I see you are playing 15 minute games, but the games are normally over in 5 minutes. Therefore, slow down and try a simple checklist before each move like:
a) are my pieces safe from attack, if not, will I be better off after the exchange
b) can I make a forcing move that will put me in a better position, or put me in a position where I am making them move (especially look for any checks you can make)
c) does my opponent have any pieces on my side of the board I can remove?
d) improve the position of my worst piece
-You will improve, it takes time, if you are having fun, then keep pushing

knighthunter2024
adorableraccoondog wrote:

Now enjoy my stupid play.

i hate this bot so much.

Dude you are playing a 1400 bot

blueemu
adorableraccoondog wrote:

I have no talent for chess.

Again, I can hardly win.
Is it just that my lack of aptitude for chess has become apparent?

I was taking moves too fast and was advised to do it more slowly, so I followed suit and played a few more games today.

However, it's hard to say that my play has improved greatly, just that my mistakes have decreased somewhat.

It's been almost two months since I started playing chess.
Despite all the hard work I've done with reading, analysis, puzzles, etc., my efforts have never paid off.
No matter how much I learn, I can't seem to make use of my knowledge in actual combat.

Want to know my win rate?
15 out of 40 games.
My ELO will drop below 500 soon too.
Maybe it will drop to 100.

Since I can't improve even if I try every means for improvement,
It's clear that I have no talent for chess.

Many chess masters affirm that hard work always pays off.
It may just be a fairy tale.
At least I didn't improve at all.

Now, in this situation, which of the following options should I choose?

(1) I quit chess completely and never play it again.
(2) I quit playing, but I enjoy watching streamers and collecting chess goods, for example.
(3) I will do my best to enjoy chess regardless of winning or losing or ELO.
     (In that case, I will abandon the improvement)
(4) your own ideas

Fifteen out of forty is an EXCELLENT win rate for someone who has only been playing for a few months. Stop whining.

I've been playing since 1967. More than half a century. When I was a teenager I got to represent the Canadian Atlantic Provinces (Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island) in the under-20 championship of Canada. It was a nine-round tournament, held in Vancouver.

I was way, way out of my depth facing these guys. I was sort of half-decent at chess, these guys were GOOD. Out of the nine tournament games I played against the other provincial champions, I won one game. ONE.

Did I quit chess? No, of course not.. It takes YEARS to get really good at this game. I kept playing, and now... decades later... I'm rated 2350 on this website.

Ziryab

I played chess twenty years before I had a rating. These days, kids get rated after their first game and think they have no talent when they haven’t mastered the game in six weeks.

Nothing in life that is worth pursuing comes instantly. Think about great wine in the cellar a decade or more before it is ready to drink. That should be your model.