If You're A Chess Player, You're Probably Smarter Than Others. Is this, TRUE? - Chess Forums

George1st

Jul 1, 2021

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If You're A Chess Player, You're Probably Smarter Than Others. Read below and see if this happens to you.

Bumping into people you used to associate with or people from school?

Do you

1. Think wow were they always that stupid?

2. Wow was I always that much smarter than them?

3. Maybe I'm a genius?

4. Maybe I have opened more than 20% of my brain left and right, is this possible?

5. Nope, never happened, in fact the total opposite?

llama47

Jul 1, 2021

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If you're the type of person who would enjoy chess in the first place then you're probably pretty analytical and competitive... this means you'll appear smart to some people (whether you play chess or not).

Playing chess, itself, has very little to do with intelligence, particularly at ratings above, IDK, 1200 or something. Chess is a skill like anything else. You don't look at a very good piano player and think "they're smart." If they're very good they're probably not an idiot, they're also probably not a genius. They're just someone who has put a lot of work into practicing piano. It's the same for chess... so this is another point. A person who is organized and focused enough to improve day after day will also appear intelligent to some people.

And notice I said others may see you as intelligent... that doesn't always work the other way around. If you see others as "stupid" that's a personality flaw more than anything.

jjupiter6

Jul 1, 2021

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Chess and intelligence have no relationship. Read these forums for 10 minutes and you will have your proof.

George1st

Jul 29, 2021

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#4

ok

ChampoftheBepoCamp

Jul 29, 2021

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#5

I don't think I am really smart tbh... My iq and intelligent is somewhere like 5% above average at best...

mrfreezyiceboy

Jul 29, 2021

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jjupiter6 wrote:

Chess and intelligence have no relationship. Read these forums for 10 minutes and you will have your proof.

exactly what i was thinking to say lmao

gambler1650

Jul 29, 2021

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To start with, I assume the OP means if you're GOOD at chess, does that make you smarter than others? There are quite a few bad chess players *raises hand*.

Secondly, what is meant by intelligence? There are many different kinds. Perhaps analytical intelligence, again assuming the person is actually good at chess, but it says nothing about other types of intelligence.

And C (I used to watch "Mad About You"), as jjupiter6 said... These forums should disabuse anyone of the notion that playing chess and increased intelligence go hand in hand. I see a pretty similar spread of personality and intelligences as I do in the real world.

Lud6969

Jul 29, 2021

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Lol thats never happened to me

Lud6969

Jul 29, 2021

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#9

Also i dont think if your a chess player ur smarter than other people

aMazeMove

Jul 29, 2021

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George1st wrote:

ok

Replying now? That seems way too late.

Rancid-Knight

Jul 29, 2021

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The thing is anyone can learn to play Chess... even "stupid" people. Lol. But on the other hand, playing Chess really well and having an aptitude for learning new ideas and your retention certainly represent a higher level pf intelligence. For instance, Magnus Carlsen is said to significantly higher than average IQ of 190! That in itself is genius level.

kartikeya_tiwari

Jul 29, 2021

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

For an anonymous chess player online, and other casual chess players, I don't know.

But for an actual OTB chess competitor, yes there is something along the lines of being smarter than non-chess competitors.

If someone learned chess rules, and played a few games then left the game aside, while claiming they like it, it's because they can't cope with the ego wounds inflicted by defeats in a game where one has no good excuse.

A chess competitor, on the other hand, regards the game of chess, with it's lot of "no good excuses" defeats and losses, like an opportunity to improve on themselves, by identifying their flaws and failures and correct them.

So, regardless of other things such as IQ and whatmore, the one who goes further into chess and seek improvement after learning and losing, proves practically smarter than the one who finds nothing better to do with it, than to hide it under the bed and avoid any further embarrassement and ego wounds.

Well that's not true. If someone left chess it is because they didn't enjoy it. "Liking" or sticking with chess has absolutely ZERO relationship with identifying flaws and failures. You are assuming that everyone by default wants to improve at chess but they can't do it hence quit, in reality most people(like 99%+) don't care at all about whether they are good at chess or not

kartikeya_tiwari

Jul 29, 2021

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

But yes it's true, they did not like it for what reason? The shape of the pieces? The colour of the squares? I bet you don't compete OTB, nah. And if you claim you do, you're a liar.

Pretty sure you are a troll by now so I am not wasting time with this.

kartikeya_tiwari

Jul 29, 2021

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llama47 wrote:

If you're the type of person who would enjoy chess in the first place then you're probably pretty analytical and competitive... this means you'll appear smart to some people (whether you play chess or not).

Playing chess, itself, has very little to do with intelligence, particularly at ratings above, IDK, 1200 or something. Chess is a skill like anything else. You don't look at a very good piano player and think "they're smart." If they're very good they're probably not an idiot, they're also probably not a genius. They're just someone who has put a lot of work into practicing piano. It's the same for chess... so this is another point. A person who is organized and focused enough to improve day after day will also appear intelligent to some people.

And notice I said others may see you as intelligent... that doesn't always work the other way around. If you see others as "stupid" that's a personality flaw more than anything.

False. Everyone enjoys some activity, does that make them all appear smarter than others? Some people really enjoy football which is a game requiring analysis and competition both, so does it mean they are smarter than others?

Point is, people have this completely false notion that chess requires intelligence and that's why they think that chess players are smart. Chess requires as much intelligence as sitting in your room and smoking a cig

kartikeya_tiwari

Jul 29, 2021

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

kartikeya_tiwari a écrit :

MelvinGarvey wrote:

But yes it's true, they did not like it for what reason? The shape of the pieces? The colour of the squares? I bet you don't compete OTB, nah. And if you claim you do, you're a liar.

Pretty sure you are a troll by now so I am not wasting time with this.

Sure, a troll, with over 30 years experience OTB competition and also a referee for my Federation. Whatever. You're just mad to feel so busted.

Don't try hard, your cover is blown. Try again in some other forum post.

ChessDude009

Jul 29, 2021

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Op, BTW, every person can use more than 20% of your brain. RN, you'll literally be using 100% of your brain.

ricorat

Jul 29, 2021

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Tbh I’m about as dumb as you get and I play chess. I do think that most people who play chess seriously are usually going to be smarter than the average person but, you still have people who are good at chess but, dumb as a brick

Kapivarovskic

Jul 29, 2021

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jjupiter6 wrote:

Chess and intelligence have no relationship. Read these forums for 10 minutes and you will have your proof.

Greatest truest thing I've read in a while

Kapivarovskic

Jul 29, 2021

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And depends what you consider smart... there are different types of intelligence... spatial, musical, logical, inter and intrapersonal, etc etc

MEXIMARTINI

Jul 30, 2021

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kartikeya_tiwari wrote:

MelvinGarvey wrote:

kartikeya_tiwari a écrit :

MelvinGarvey wrote:

But yes it's true, they did not like it for what reason? The shape of the pieces? The colour of the squares? I bet you don't compete OTB, nah. And if you claim you do, you're a liar.

Pretty sure you are a troll by now so I am not wasting time with this.

Sure, a troll, with over 30 years experience OTB competition and also a referee for my Federation. Whatever. You're just mad to feel so busted.

Don't try hard, your cover is blown. Try again in some other forum post.

@MelvinGarvey Why does most on here think you are a troll????