Immortal Game

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Thajeev23

Opinions on the game?

Strangemover

*Realises only when the moment arrives that it was a mistake not to practice pronouncing 'Lee Onul Kaizer Itsky' 😆 

Thajeev23

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Strangemover

Just bantering earlier, some serious suggestions here:

The Immortal game is one of the most famous games in the history of chess and there are any number of videos about it so I think some more detail would be good for viewers who might not know some things...

Where this game was played and when (London 1851).

A bit of background on the 'Romantic era' of chess and why the wild style of this game was not unusual at that time.

A bit of history about the 2 players.

Anderssen was asked whilst in London by a journalist why he had not been to see the 'Great Exhibition' which was taking place in the Crystal Palace which had been constructed in Hyde Park. He replied 'I came to London to play chess'. Some insight into his character there. 

Kieseritzky was an opening expert, particularly in the King's Gambit. He invented this line for white which is still considered a main line today:

Spassky beat Fischer using this as white in 1960.

You mentioned the Bryan counter gambit 4.b5...some details - this was invented by an American amateur Thomas Jefferson Bryan. In 1993 Kasparov had just defeated Short in the PCA world championship match. There then followed some exhibition games in which the organisers chose the openings. Kasparov had to play the Bryan counter gambit and was forced to resign after only 15 moves in a hopeless position. He was apparently furious at having to play this and remonstrated noisily with the organisers.

Kieseritzky was a fan of the Bryan. Here is a beautiful game of his vs Schulten in Paris, 1844.

Lastly there was a defence for Kieseritsky on move 19. Instead of Bxg1 there was Qb2 and it is not clear how white is going to win. To have played such a move though would probably have seen him labelled a coward and also deprived the world of the great finish that was seen.

A bit of research and a bit of history will draw more people into your videos, rather than mostly just playing the game through move by move 👍

Moonwarrior_1

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Strangemover wrote:

Just bantering earlier, some serious suggestions here:

The Immortal game is one of the most famous games in the history of chess and there are any number of videos about it so I think some more detail would be good for viewers who might not know some things...

Where this game was played and when (London 1851).

A bit of background on the 'Romantic era' of chess and why the wild style of this game was not unusual at that time.

A bit of history about the 2 players.

Anderssen was asked whilst in London by a journalist why he had not been to see the 'Great Exhibition' which was taking place in the Crystal Palace which had been constructed in Hyde Park. He replied 'I came to London to play chess'. Some insight into his character there. 

Kieseritzky was an opening expert, particularly in the King's Gambit. He invented this line for white which is still considered a main line today:

Spassky beat Fischer using this as white in 1960.

You mentioned the Bryan counter gambit 4.b5...some details - this was invented by an American amateur Thomas Jefferson Bryan. In 1993 Kasparov had just defeated Short in the PCA world championship match. There then followed some exhibition games in which the organisers chose the openings. Kasparov had to play the Bryan counter gambit and was forced to resign after only 15 moves in a hopeless position. He was apparently furious at having to play this and remonstrated noisily with the organisers.

Kieseritzky was a fan of the Bryan. Here is a beautiful game of his vs Schulten in Paris, 1844.

Lastly there was a defence for Kieseritsky on move 19. Instead of Bxg1 there was Qb2 and it is not clear how white is going to win. To have played such a move though would probably have seen him labelled a coward and also deprived the world of the great finish that was seen.

A bit of research and a bit of history will draw more people into your videos, rather than mostly just playing the game through move by move 👍

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Thajeev23
Strangemover wrote:

Just bantering earlier, some serious suggestions here:

The Immortal game is one of the most famous games in the history of chess and there are any number of videos about it so I think some more detail would be good for viewers who might not know some things...

Where this game was played and when (London 1851).

A bit of background on the 'Romantic era' of chess and why the wild style of this game was not unusual at that time.

A bit of history about the 2 players.

Anderssen was asked whilst in London by a journalist why he had not been to see the 'Great Exhibition' which was taking place in the Crystal Palace which had been constructed in Hyde Park. He replied 'I came to London to play chess'. Some insight into his character there. 

Kieseritzky was an opening expert, particularly in the King's Gambit. He invented this line for white which is still considered a main line today:

Spassky beat Fischer using this as white in 1960.

You mentioned the Bryan counter gambit 4.b5...some details - this was invented by an American amateur Thomas Jefferson Bryan. In 1993 Kasparov had just defeated Short in the PCA world championship match. There then followed some exhibition games in which the organisers chose the openings. Kasparov had to play the Bryan counter gambit and was forced to resign after only 15 moves in a hopeless position. He was apparently furious at having to play this and remonstrated noisily with the organisers.

Kieseritzky was a fan of the Bryan. Here is a beautiful game of his vs Schulten in Paris, 1844.

Lastly there was a defence for Kieseritsky on move 19. Instead of Bxg1 there was Qb2 and it is not clear how white is going to win. To have played such a move though would probably have seen him labelled a coward and also deprived the world of the great finish that was seen.

A bit of research and a bit of history will draw more people into your videos, rather than mostly just playing the game through move by move 👍

Thank you very much!! Much useful feedback.   Points noted, will try to incorporate. 

Strangemover

@Thajeev23 you're welcome. Perhaps you could do a follow up video on the 'Evergreen' game, the 2nd of Anderssens masterpieces. Another idea on him could be the game where he played 1.a3 and beat Morphy (because everything else he was trying in the opening was failing!). Hence why 1.a3 is today known as Anderssens opening. 

Thajeev23
Strangemover wrote:

@Thajeev23 you're welcome. Perhaps you could do a follow up video on the 'Evergreen' game, the 2nd of Anderssens masterpieces. Another idea on him could be the game where he played 1.a3 and beat Morphy (because everything else he was trying in the opening was failing!). Hence why 1.a3 is today known as Anderssens opening. 

Great idea!! I will try them.