Any game with a random element implies some degree of luck. This is anything where something happens at random (e.g. Monopoly, Scrabble, Dominos, Magic the Gathering, Poker, Snakes and Ladders) although much skill would be needed in most of those, there is a random element too.
I believe the post is about 100% skill and therefore 0% luck! I'd count Chess as one of those.
Ok im already creating a forum topic about poker, all poker players, regulars, noobs and others post there if interested please. thanks
My example was for an actual face to face game and there have been studies done to prove poker is skill based because you have to know when the odds sent in your favor and when they are and when to say screw it and go all in
My example was for an actual face to face game and there have been studies done to prove poker is skill based because you have to know when the odds sent in your favor and when they are and when to say screw it and go all in
Are you not even listening?
Khallyx wrote:
jetfighter13 wrote:
My example was for an actual face to face game and there have been studies done to prove poker is skill based because you have to know when the odds sent in your favor and when they are and when to say screw it and go all in
Are you not even listening?
You mean reading... Anyway yes I know what you are saying but you are saying that poker is pure chance which it isn't because there are many US states where gambling in games of chance is illegal but gambling in poker is perfectly legal because it is a game of skill do your research
1. I did not say it's pure chance. I said it's mostly luck, which it is, and then there's the small skill factor which separates the players.
"Do your research": 1) What you said has nothing to do with what I said, making you look like a condescending idiot. 2) Why would the law have anything to do with it? It's illegal in my country, does it mean I can use it as an argument?
Mum why is it illegal and second the research I have done is both practical and normal you are the condescending idiot to use your words you are a mail informed but well intentioned person. The research shows that poker is a game of mostly skill now if it were pure chance how come I have never lost a round against my friends if it were pure chance or even 50% chance at least once in 5 or 6 years you would have to assume the that I would have lost at least one round. A round in my case is approximately 30 hands whichwe played about 2 a week
What about darts? Just you, a set of three darts, and a dartboard. Nothing but skill determines the winner.
You're too ludicrous to be worth my patience. Untracking.
Swimming is 100% Skill.
Chess is the only game for me... :)
(The only thing is I'm not very good at it)... :(
Why play chess when Tiger Wood earms >$150M last year having a good time on golf courses?
Yes but he has a lot of high-maintenance personal affairs to support.
I think it depends on what you regard as "luck". I would say Chess is not 100% skill, because you can be lucky and play the right move for the wrong reason. Eg let's say you're a very low rated player who doesn't see much of what's going on. You play your knight to a rubbish square on the side of the board in a misguided attack on an opponents pawn, but in so doing reveal a discovered attack from your bishop that pins the opponents queen against his king, that you hadn't even noticed. In a sense, that's luck, because you didn't see the reason behind the critical move but luckily picked it anyway. The same applies to higher rated players, it's just the luck is more subtle. Whenever you make the right move, for an entirely mistaken reason, that's arguably lucky.
Fisher ran.. oh. Nevermind.
Many skilled software-operators on chess.com.
Tend to use anonymous monikers like "chess-ninja123".
Is chess the only 100% skill based game?? Are you kidding me?
Of course not. The list of 100% skill games is virtually endless: A few that come to mind are Havannah, Hex, Go, Breakthrough, Reverso/Othello, Checkers, Chinese Checkers, Connect Four, Tic-Tac-Toe, *Star, Twixt, Pente, DVONN, Amazons, Connect6, Shogi, Dots and Boxes, Lines of Action, Abalone, Camelot, Halma...
Most of the board games listed on this site probably fall into that category (100% skill) too.
I agree that poker is a game of skill, but it doesn't have "100% skill." Likewise with backgammon and Scrabble. The element of randomness in these games removes it from the 100% skill category.
The ratio of skill to luck increases with sample size in poker. That simple.
Poker is virtually 100% luck (over the long run) against players of the same skill level, and quickly regresses towards pure skill (again, over the long run) as skill differentials increase.
But it never becomes pure skill over the course of a hand, a night of poker, or even a tournament. The sample sizes are just way too small relative the number of outcomes. That's why we've seen some pretty bad players make some pretty deep runs in some pretty major tournaments, and why we've seen some real legends of the game continually disappoint in the same situations. A lifetime of WSOP main events isn't long enough to smooth out the variance curve -- there just aren't enough hands played. And all the skill in the world isn't going to turn that K2o into a winner if your opponent flops the nuts.
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