Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?

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chasm1995

I'll play a correspondence with you.  I'll send a challenge if you say you'll acept.

MethodMan118

yeah im up for it :D

chasm1995

Okay, I just sent it.  Good luck!

RetiFan

Going to watch that game, should be interesting!

bean_Fischer

Please be relevant, helpful & nice!

You can find them in live chess. Click on tournment tab, and then join. Sorry I am in a 5,0 tournment now.

 
MethodMan118

So basically we should have a match in the live chess to prove your theory?

MethodMan118

wrong, actually view the games you fool, 2/3 are resigns also isnt this how chess.com is supposed to work? you play and you get better and better, now if i didnt improve at all that would be weird. Oh and one more question, who hurt you?

anthonyjoschess

Well I am a 1300 rated player as of now, my best win was against a 1689 rated player on chess.com. My highest rating till date is 1459. Thats it.

No way am I going to win against a 2700 rated player whether he plays blindfolded, or even if he chooses to play bullet chess while I play with standard time controls. 

MethodMan118

where's the ambition man?

RetiFan

The player seems to be 1300, so seems legit. Please start the game, so we can watch

MethodMan118

Retifan why dont you play me? by the way i only play live.

JacobVSO

It should be easy to run the figures on winning chances for various ratings, using the rating formula. I'm sure it would turn out almost infinitely improbable (in the sense that even if you spent your entire life from now on playing chess games with a 2700, you would not be likely to win a single game).

MethodMan118

Your so sad, You simply selected a losing streak if you were right you could have just posted my most recent games. There is also a difference between someone challenging me (like those players did) and me just playing random games.

RetiFan
MethodMan118 yazmış:

Retifan why dont you play me? by the way i only play live.

I only prefer to play correspondence, sorry :(

billyblatt
bean_Fischer wrote:

Please be relevant, helpful & nice!

You can find them in live chess. Click on tournment tab, and then join. Sorry I am in a 5,0 tournment now.

 

Bean fischer you know you can delete the Please be relevant, helpful & nice!  before you start typing right??? It's in every one of your post!

Ijustwanttobepure

Yes, in your sleep while dreaming.

ClavierCavalier
Sheezy-weezy wrote:

Chess is like soccer.. Who knew lionel messi would b untouchable after 5yrs ie 2008 to 2013. Even if u are a 1300 rated player all u need to know is imbalances! Imbalances! And imbalances.. So u can build a concrete plan one that not even fisher can defend if only u know what the position requires much like lionel messi can penatrate through world class defenders such as pepe, gatusso, silver etc just after he evaluates the position.. If u think am being a big mouth try me!

This sounds nuts.  Fischer won 20 games straight leading into the world championship match, and these were against some of the best players in the world, then he crushed the world champion, and I guarantee you they knew all about imbalances.  Do you really think a 1300 could ever come close to understanding a position like a super GM?  Give a 1300 a few hours to think about a position and they still wouldn't understand it like a 2700 with just a 30 seconds glance.

On top of this, the only similarity between chess and football is the fact that the ball is black and white, as are the chess pieces.

MethodMan118
ClavierCavalier wrote:
Sheezy-weezy wrote:

Chess is like soccer.. Who knew lionel messi would b untouchable after 5yrs ie 2008 to 2013. Even if u are a 1300 rated player all u need to know is imbalances! Imbalances! And imbalances.. So u can build a concrete plan one that not even fisher can defend if only u know what the position requires much like lionel messi can penatrate through world class defenders such as pepe, gatusso, silver etc just after he evaluates the position.. If u think am being a big mouth try me!

This sounds nuts.  Fischer won 20 games straight leading into the world championship match, and these were against some of the best players in the world, then he crushed the world champion, and I guarantee you they knew all about imbalances.  Do you really think a 1300 could ever come close to understanding a position like a super GM?  Give a 1300 a few hours to think about a position and they still wouldn't understand it like a 2700 with just a 30 seconds glance.

On top of this, the only similarity between chess and football is the fact that the ball is black and white, as are the chess pieces.

someone hates sport's.

hot_as_the_sun

Let's see 2700 -1300 =1400. A 300 point difference should result in a 7-1 ratio for the higher rated player. a 200 point difference in a 3-1 ratio.


1400 = 300 + 300 + 300 + 300 + 200


Or 1/8 *1/8 *1/8 *1/8 *1/4 = 1/16384


So if the 1300 played 16384 games he might get one win. (This may be a good deal for the GM because you always get one point for a win)

Elubas
MethodMan118 wrote:

This is ridiculous, just like any other game/sport anyone can beat anyone. A bad day is always someone else's good day, If any of you high rated players would like to dispute my claims then play me.

Actually, you've made me think of something, methodman.

How about we do a real experiment. I'll be willing to play someone, I don't know, 800+ points lower than me or something, or at least much lower rated, and see if anything happens over the course of 100+ unrated games (I still expect to win every time, assuming the ratings are accurate, but there may be some moments where I will be struggling to get more than a draw for example, even if I ultimately succeed).

I do not want to play 50 games simultaneously, lol, but maybe I could do two at a time or something and just slowly accumulate in the quantity of finished games.

Or maybe it would make more sense for me to just play hundreds of different people who are much lower rated so that they don't learn my openings and playing style and I don't learn theirs.

In any case, I stand by my previous argument that if it's possible for a 2700 to blunder (no matter how unlikely), and it's possible for a 1300 to take advantage of that blunder (no matter how unlikely), then it's not unreasonable to conclude that it's possible for both things to happen and the 1300 to win. But that chance may be as low as 10^-100 or even lower, and thus as I have said, I am in no way equating "possible" with anything remotely close to "hopeful."