Is this strategy really unbeatable?

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johnmusacha
TheGrobe wrote:

Worked for France in WWII, didn't it?

Muahah.

Akatsuki64

If you have been playing for 20 years, I would expect your rating to be a little higher.

TheGrobe

Problem is he's been playing this for 20 years.

danjr

jason17 said:

"So to answer the OP, coming from the GM Serper, yes the pawn wall is unbeatable--but only when played to perfection. Many people slave themselves to a move order instead of understanding the principles of pawn wall play, like the first poster does."

 

All strategies are unbeatable when played to perfection, no?

johnmusacha

Someone already said that.  Plus the OP plays in Fiji which has a small pool of mostly lower-rated players.  So even if he won a tremendous percentage of his games his rating still would be on the low side.

TheGrobe
danjr wrote:

All strategies are unbeatable when played to perfection?  No.

Fixed your punctuation.

JamieKowalski
danjr wrote:

All strategies are unbeatable when played to perfection, no?

Not even close to true.

"Here's a strategy: For every move that it is legal to do so, move your King."

No matter how perfectly you play that strategy, you're going to lose. And that's just one of a million possible losing strategies.

bronsteinitz

If the french had had that advice in WW2, they would have stopped making wine when the germans invaded. But no, they had to stick to their strategy...

Vimitsu
bronsteinitz wrote:

I don't think that Taimanov grasped the concept completely? You know the V for victory etc...


Taimanov didn't follow the strategy exactly, but some were similar, like how Black was forced to trade pawns to slow the attack followed by an attack by White's pieces. I didn't know of any games where a "V" formation was combined with a slow pawn advance.

Could BigChessMaster post a game in which he uses the strategy?

Vimitsu
ab121705 wrote:


 it's not the strategy that is being criticized; it is the clearly false assertion that it is unbeatable. COME ON!!

That's true; I said that it was not unbeatable, but it was not bad. Actually, some people went further than saying it was not unbeatable and said it was terrible e.g. creating holes, exposing the king, etc. 

Dude_3

and they were right :P

bullregard

Please post some your favorite games using the "Pawn Wall" so us mortals can have a glimpse.

Dude_3
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erikido23
erikido23 wrote:

I didn't read the original post and the answer is no.

Truer words have never been spoken handsome genius

Scottrf

Amazing how many people took this seriously.

Chessotic

You sir,has just made my day...

waffllemaster
ponz111 wrote:

"This does not make sense and if it does not make sense--it is not true"

Judge Judy

"Either you're playing dumb, or it's not an act."

Another JJ quote I like :)

Chregg

Shannon's number, if your strategy was full proof and unbeatable, then chess would be limited by that !!!! and it aint, infinite possibilities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_number

melogibbo

yeah he's totally trolling, I looked at one of his other games (much worse play and no pawn wall to speak of)

He's obviously not been playing 20 years, I chuckled at his post in fact.

Chregg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game-tree_complexity