Is this vacation abuse?

So one of my opponents has  been on vacation for about three days and yet I have seen him logged on at least once in all those three days.  One time his avatar listed him as playing live chess.  I am all for vacation time.  Life gets in the way BUT if someone is on vacation that would seem to insinuate they don't have time for live chess as well.  Am I wrong?

I think you are wrong but I share the same feelings as you.  Therefore, we are both wrong I guess. 

I believe this site as well as other sites allows one to make moves even though they are on vacation.

All we can do is wait for them to run out of vacation tinme.

I thought everyone agreed that there is no such thing as vacation abuse?  You're actually making a case for people not being able to see when someone is on or offline...get out of the business.

This is why I asked the question.  I just know that when I am on "vacation" at chess.com (usually when I am traveling)  I will not log in or play live chess or anything as I feel that having taking vacation time I would be somewhat disgenous by logging in.  But if it isn't abuse than it isn't and I will be quiet.

Are you telling me to get out of the business?  I hope not.  I was just asking a question.  I even asked in my original post if I was wrong?  I am trying to be open and just figure it out.

The case makes itself -- as a privacy advocate I'm sure you agree. 

I think it is abuse, many don't agree with with me.

I think vacation should be something planned, you take it, and then you return.

I can see how people who cant play weekends, for example, may need to take vacation once a week, for 2 days.

I cant see how it is necessary to use vacation 2 or 3 timer per day, this is clearly an attempt at trying to manipulate some dort of advantage.

I am also not in favour of an unlimited number of timeout protections. I think one per month should be enough for anybody, if you have more crises/emergencies than that, perhaps you should spend more time getting you life in order, and less on this site.

But, many on here will defend to the death everybody's right to use vacation in any way they please.

Just my opinions, I know I will probably not convince anybody.

I have suggested it on numerous occasions, and I'll take this opportunity to do so again:  A statistic indicating how many times a player uses their vacation would be helpful for those wishing to avoid players who use their vacation in this manner.  I don't advocate a restriction on how vacation time is used, however I do support visibility into stats like average vacation duration, number of times vacation and auto-vacation are used etc.

I thought the website has a specific definition for vacation abuse. When you go to your user settings, and go on vacation, I think there is a popup which tells you that certain things are considered vacation abuse.

Yes, you are wrong. Sometimes I saw friends marked as present in live chess. When I got there, I couldn't find them. In fact, they were not even logged in. You should not pay too much attention if someone appears here online. I think that I appear almost always online, that's because chess.com is one the 7-8 active tabs I have in my browser. It doesn't mean I actually play or read something on chess.com

There is also another part: maybe I have something hard to work and I really can't afford the time to find a move in a complicated position, with pieces hanging all over the board. Maybe I'm not in the mood to do this too. But I can play a 1 0 game to take a break.

You make a good point but I have seen people who are in a losing position take vacation and play in all there other games.  This is especially bad in a tournament which results in holding up the tournament for eceyone concerned. 

I was recently out of town for a week without any internet (I have no laptop or smart phone), but I'm in a couple of "no vacation" tournaments which both started their new rounds a day or two before I left. I had to call a friend of mine to tell me what moves people had made and I had to relay the return moves back to him so I wouldn't time out. To some of my opponents it could have appeared that I was logging on and moving in some games while not moving in their games. Obviously this is an obscure example, but there are some odd reasons people may start/stop vacations.

Unfortunately, one evening while I was wandering around Disneyland I forgot to call him and timed out on all ten games anyway. Such is life.

That's a sad story.

Ozzie, I think you're right about that...something about...use it in the right spirit?

I can appreciate the irony of it occurring in the happiest place on earth though. 

Hahahaha! So true....

He's probably wrapped up in other games.  I play on 3 sites, round 3 of a tournament is about to start on one of those sites so I'm cutting down my games in the other 2 to accomodate that fact. 

I wouldn't call it abuse, although I'm sure somebody somewhere likes to use it as a tactic, hoping you will lose track of what you were doing, your thoughts on what your opponent was up to and as a result wind up losing the game.

To become annoyed at it is to play into their hands.  Use the extra time given to you to your advantage and find the best possible move.         

No, it isn't.

Watch your backrank.

Has it occurred to anyone that perhaps some people like to play "slow", serious,  chess when they're at home, but when they're not at home they play casual quick games?  Besides, who cares what the guy's reason is.  Maybe he needs a vaction from chess.com?  Seriously this is pointless thread.  Is he following the rules of the website or not?  Answer is apparently "yes".  Nuff said. 

The problem is the "fast food" mentality. We want things now, at our choosing and convenience, with no regard for the other party. We all know the rules when we start a game, but yet find some reason to complain when the other party do nothing but follow the rules. We feel that rules should bend to our tastes and not others, we feel that the world revolves around us, and how dare he go on vacation during my oh so important chess game...grow up, if you don't have the patience then resign.