Isn't it rude to offer a draw when you are losing?

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Eo____

Some draw offers are more hilarious than rude.

kco

you kidding me right ?

jenkinsongreg
Hilarious...and pretentious...but only rude when it is obvious by a four-year-old that they are going to lose otherwise. This just happened to me this morning...my queen and pawns against his king...and he offers a draw...just when I am about to promote one of my pawns for a quick checkmate...really? A draw? Pathetic. I think the main reason in this case is that he will lose to someone who has 300+ career/standings points less than him. It's going to hurt his standings a bit.
mnostrant

Sometimes a draw is offered in a position where the opponent has been winning and the position is now drawn. The opponent will refuse remembering they stood better and try to prove a win and lose as a result.

James1011James1011

Yes and no. Sometimes, people offer draws in losing positions, and while it could be annoying, especially if they continually offer and offer, it's not exactly rude. You can offer a draw at any time, but its up to the other player to accept the draw, or not. Continually offering a draw, however, is considered poor etiquitte. If they decide to continually offer draws, keep playing, and don't accept the draws unless you really feel you are in a drawn position.

poucin

rude is not the word i would use, i would say disrespectful.

Unfortunately, respect and sportmanship become rare things...

They hope we click the bad button, or we lose some time at clock, really poor behaviour.

James1011James1011

All you have to do is beat them and report them. Then you wait...

SmyslovFan

In English, yes, it's rude. It's disrespectful too. 

But, it's not against the rules, and there's nothing to report. 

BUT, if a player repeatedly offers draws, regardless of the position, that is against the rules of chess.

Elroch

It can be reasonable in a very fast game where the winning side is at risk of losing on time.

James1011James1011

True, but I don't think that counts.

TheOldReb

I wish that in online chess they would write code that once a player offers one draw he cannot offer another one until after his opponent offers one . Like the doubling cube in backgammon ... when you offer a draw (double) that ability passes to your opponent and you cannot offer again until after your opponent has offered .  This would solve most of the problems where draw offers are concerned . 

AutisticCath

There was one game I was playing on here that after moves 40-46, there was third position repetition. I kept clicking the "draw" button at this point as my opponent had broken the repeated position and all it did was offer a draw and I could not figure out why because the game should have ended at move 46. I was in a losing position otherwise. Regardless, I lost on time. I would state that my opponent was the rude one for not accepting the reality that had already occurred. I think that if you have third position repetition and all the system is allowing you to do is offer a draw, you should keep clicking the draw button until you lose on time and then contact the support staff on chess.com asking them as to why you were only able to offer the draw rather than claim the draw. Your opponent should theoretically have his right to deny a draw in that position waived rather than retained.

This is probably the only time I've clicked the draw button until my time ran out. There was one time though when I didn't realize I had a legal move to make and clicked the draw button which after my opponent declined, I realized I had a legal move and immediately apologized to them and then resigned.

Pulpofeira

Post the game.

TheOldReb

Isn't there a " claim draw "  button in such instances ?  

Ziryab

I agree with Reb:

Reb wrote:

I wish that in online chess they would write code that once a player offers one draw he cannot offer another one until after his opponent offers one . Like the doubling cube in backgammon ... when you offer a draw (double) that ability passes to your opponent and you cannot offer again until after your opponent has offered .  This would solve most of the problems where draw offers are concerned . 

mcostan

just LOL and don't accept it. Jeeze, punishment, disrespect, reportings. . . . I had no idea chess was full of so many sensitive drama queens. Do y'all have jobs in the real world?

DrSpudnik

Sometimes offering a draw is your best bet.

TheOldReb
mcostan wrote:

just LOL and don't accept it. Jeeze, punishment, disrespect, reportings. . . . I had no idea chess was full of so many sensitive drama queens. Do y'all have jobs in the real world?

If you were a real chessplayer you would understand why such draw offers are rude/irritating ...etc . 

TurboFish

Why even pay any attention to repeated nonsensical draw offers?  Just ignore them completely, and let the perpetrator stew in his/her own psychological juices.  In internet chess it's especially easy to ignore.  OTB, I use earplugs.  I am a real chessplayer.

TheOldReb

Well , in otb chess its against the rules and you can call the TD over and have him stop it . In online its distracting and if you respond in any way it costs you time on the clock .  It would be easy for any competent programmer to write code to put a stop to this particular annoyance if they so desired . Obviously they don't so desire .