Kasparov on Women chess players

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apocalypseLight

I love the censoring of chess

BuzzleGuzzle
MikeCrockett wrote:

Amazing what trouble gets generated simply because someone quotes a man about what his opinions are about women. Given it's cited as a quote from 1989 and printed in playboy no less, you would think this is an obvious set up for sexist controversy.

..And everyone ignored them.

x6px

#63 men more strategic brains probably because hunting made them evolve . The not strategic ones died

BuzzleGuzzle

And the proof that men have more strategic brains?

pawn8888

One reason why men are considered better at chess is because men probably make up about 90% of chess players. If the same amount of women played chess that men do, the proportion of great players probably would even out. Chess is a game of attacking and winning. Women aren't really into that.

apocalypseLight
pawn8888 wrote:

One reason why men are considered better at chess is because men probably make up about 90% of chess players. If the same amount of women played chess that men do, the proportion of great players probably would even out. Chess is a game of attacking and winning. Women aren't really into that.

Totally false since men have a IQ distribution more spread than women. This is well known by now...

pawn8888

Sure, an IQ 'more spread' - right.

AngryPuffer
pawn8888 wrote:

One reason why men are considered better at chess is because men probably make up about 90% of chess players. If the same amount of women played chess that men do, the proportion of great players probably would even out. Chess is a game of attacking and winning. Women aren't really into that.

80-85%

AngryPuffer
apocalypseLight wrote:

I love the censoring of chess

yeah having a different opinion that could offend a snowflake on here can get you muted. Trust me, its happened to me before, which is why im going to tread lightly on this forum. Even if you have statistics and other sources of evidence, somebody will still end up calling you a ¨bigot¨ and martin will swoop in and purge you.

gabrielRXT

"Los hombres juegan mejor/tienen los cerebros más desarrollados por la caza"

Falso no porque seas mujer o hombre te hace mejor en ajedrez, podrías decir en la fuerza física por que tienen mas testosterona (que no lo es todo, no te hace mejor) en lo mental (iq/inteligencia) no hay un sexo predominante.

Seas hombre o mujer, dependerá de como juegues y que también lo haces.

AngryPuffer
gabrielRXT wrote:

"Los hombres juegan mejor/tienen los cerebros más desarrollados por la caza"

Falso no porque seas mujer o hombre te hace mejor en ajedrez, podrías decir en la fuerza física por que tienen mas testosterona (que no lo es todo, no te hace mejor) en lo mental (iq/inteligencia) no hay un sexo predominante.

Seas hombre o mujer, dependerá de como juegues y que también lo haces.

The brain of a male and a female are very different, which is scientifically proven. We think differently, process things differently, notice things differently, and other little things. Whats not to say that that doesn't impact our abilities to play chess against eachother?

 
 

AngryPuffer
llama_l wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
gabrielRXT wrote:

"Los hombres juegan mejor/tienen los cerebros más desarrollados por la caza"

Falso no porque seas mujer o hombre te hace mejor en ajedrez, podrías decir en la fuerza física por que tienen mas testosterona (que no lo es todo, no te hace mejor) en lo mental (iq/inteligencia) no hay un sexo predominante.

Seas hombre o mujer, dependerá de como juegues y que también lo haces.

The brain of a male and a female are very different, which is scientifically proven. We think differently, process things differently, notice things differently, and other little things. Whats not to say that that doesn't impact our abilities to play chess against eachother?

Yeah, but not 200 points worth of difference. That's stupid.

Unsurprisingly there is only something like a 25 point difference between the average male and female ratings.

but its still strange that out of the 2000 grandmasters only 41 are women, and if 15% of the chess community is women, shouldnt it be higher?

BuzzleGuzzle

The weird thing you have to account for is the sharp increase in the amount of titles awarded to women, which coincides with the sharp increase in the amount of women that play in FIDE, which increased much more steeply than the amount of men awarded titles. So while 0% of grandmasters who earned the title in 1950 are women, the amount awarded in 2021 is 3 out of 29 total grandmasters, 3/29 is ~10 percent, which is pretty close to FIDE's self-proclaimed ~10 percent as of 2020.

BuzzleGuzzle

Don't we all?

gabrielRXT

Claro, eso lose no estoy diciendo que las mujeres y hombres piensen igual, nosotros pensamos diferrente, y respecto a lo que si afecta al jugar ajedrez unos contra otros si y...no.

Mira la cosa es así, hicieron un experimento donde ponieron a hombres y mujeres a jugar unos contra otros sin decirles contra quien se enfrentan, a las mujeres que se enfrentaron contras hombre, sin decirles que eran hombres, jugaron al mismo nivel, pero a las mujeres que sí les dijeron que su oponente era hombre jugaron pesimo (no me recuerdo como se llama perdón, no me estoy inventando esto ) no puedo comprobar la veracidad de este experimento.

Lo que queria decir con mi comentario era que no por que si eres hombre tienes más habilidad en en el ajedrez, por eso dije que depende de juegues y que también lo haces.

Y otra cosa que quería mencionar es que cuando jugaba con mi amiga la mayoría de juegos se desanimaba y decía que yo le iba a ganar por que yo era hombre.

gabrielRXT

Disculpa si en mi comentario se lee con poco confuso es que se me iva a apagar el teléfono y presione publicar para no escribir todo de nuevo.

Una cosa que es bastante estúpida, es que yo tengo compañeros bastante estúpidos que cuando juegan con una mujer le dicen que ella no le puede ganar en un juego porque ella es mujer.

Así que eso puede afectar a una persona, o sea si crees que alguien es superior a ti eso te desanima bastante, y si juegas con esa persona juagaras mal.

Ptt: agradesco que si me equivoco en algo o dan su opinión lo hacen educadamente en verdad no saben con cuantas personas que no les gusta mi comentario y me responde con cantidad de palabras que si las dices en un canal de youtube te serán el canal.

Gracias.

SoftStroker
AngryPuffer wrote:

The brain of a male and a female are very different, which is scientifically proven. We think differently, process things differently, notice things differently, and other little things. Whats not to say that that doesn't impact our abilities to play chess against eachother?

Are you suggesting different as in different ranges of potential, like where one could possibly be superior to the other by design? Or different as in entirely independent from one another? If the latter, then the biggest brain from bucket A should be able to face an even, but exciting, matchup against the biggest brain from bucket B... each with their own unique, but logically equivalent, means of problem solving.

apocalypseLight

It is not only chess. In every single contest where it is possible to compete. Male dominate the top... Every single time... Lol

Fetorenczi
And when Judit Polgar beats kasparov? Lol.
medelpad
“All women are bad chess players”-Kasparov