Kasparov vs Deep Blue - once again

Hello. As I watch the movie "Game Over - Kasparov and the Machine" I cannot resist an impression that Garry more or less suggests that the IBM team cheated somehow during the 1997 match (especially in the infamous game 2).

The movie itself, however, is not very recent (it's from 2003) so I'd like to ask if the issue has been settled somehow in the meantime. In short, did they cheat or not? (or we don't know really)

I saw this movie some years ago and my impression is:

Kasparov in fact could beat the machine because he figured out the way to win.

But there had a lot of money and interest involved then IBM made some arrangements to beat Kasparov somehow... The mistery is this.

Just one opinion after seeing the movie.

Considering IBM's secrecy and lack of transparency, it wasn't unreasonable for Kasparov to be suspicious. He could have handled the situation better, but he is just a passionate, passionate man.

Kasparov is a fraud,  don´t listen to him .  

The masters in cheat and lie are the politicians and you know what is this guy.

Besides you should read the Fischer and Valery Salov accusations  about the world championship matches fixed  between kasparov  vs karpov,  very interesting topic .  

anti-jews, no anti-semitic , nice term invented by a jew to manipulate t0 everybody.  and Fischer was jew too , so he knows more than we know about this evil religion ,  ask yourself why this people has been expelled from many countries during all history and this is not racism , when these strangers don´t not respect the customs where they go   . 

Viulindar, what kind of asshole are you? No kidding with such a thing, please.

another brainwashed ,   who is kidding?  You read history my friend, everything i said is written .

thank you King Jon ,  very easy to refute y0ur comments.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm      i was right as you can see in the link .

I don't report anybody, let alone retarded people. Of course every crap you can imagine is written, so what? And I wouldn''t touch that link even with a six-foot pole.

You should learn to respect and listen to other people instead of insulting just because you have dangerous prejudices as everybody can see.

there is not any discussion,  you click the link i sent you  . this ethnoreligious group has been expelled in 109 locations since year 250 , that is a fact .  Holliwood Propaganda  make his job, but you can not close your eyes and laugh at the facts.

As in the last movie about Fischer ,  "Pawn Sacrifice " what a disgrace of propaganda talking bullshit about Bobby Fischer.  All the movie saying Fischer had mental illness , hahaha  , this was just so ridicolous  but this propaganda goes directly t0 the mind sheep and that is pretty dangerous . 

If you want to see the real Bobby Fischer you watch interviews about him when he was young  in  youtube,  he was a very intelligent and normal man,  you can see how he expressed , he was not paranoid as they sell you .  Russian and American goverment cheating and chasing him and this is a fact too. 

 Their insults to me are fitting  for you but you prefer education and discussion, what a troll you are. 

This blablabla group was expelled in 109 locations = fact. Aaaand this means, please?

I guess that many people would appreciate if the thread came back to its initial topic...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Steel

Kasparov played none of his usual stuff... which you must know...

Kasparov needed to lose the match against the machine to make history in the world press.  And Garry l0ves the media, so it´s very easy blunder in chess and Kasparov decided for this reason playing as an amateur the caro - kann. 

Daimonion: agree. GM Illescas, who also was working for IBM as an asessor, said Deep Blue had received more than 3,000 strategic rules, wich explains why it renounced to win material in order to keep the position under control in game 2: 36. axb5! instead of 36. Qb6, and then 36. ...axb5. 37. Be4 ("a cruel move" - John Nunn).

I'm gonna pretend this thread is about chess.

Kasparov was almost certainly correct that the computer was getting assistance between games. Deep Blue refused to allow outside examination of their logs, which still doesn't make sense. 

Having said that, I was following the Caro-Kann game that Kasparov lost live. Any human expert would have known that Kasparov had blundered in the opening. I think Kasparov was so rattled that he wanted to play an unsound opening in the hopes of tricking the computer. It backfired horribly. 

So, yes, Kasparov was almost certainly right that there was undue collusion between games. But he self-destructed. He was strong enough then to have still drawn the match if he'd been able to concentrate properly. Back then, the engine wasn't nearly as strong as engines are today.

+1

It was still maybe 10 years before engines were better, not that non players knew or cared.

Anyone who thinks Kasparov ever threw a game of chess either wasn't watching or has an agenda. Kasparov's ego depends on him winning. Fischer, Kasparov and Carlsen are all cut from the same cloth in terms of their unflinching desire to win.

Yes, Leontxo García said about this he met Kasparov a few months after the match and he was still boohooing and talking about IBM cheat.