at lower levels players are less strong but at higher levels players are stronger
Lichess is a joke compare to Chess.com in terms of rating strength and improvement !
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toxic_rabbit wrote:
at lower levels players are less strong but at higher levels players are stronger
That's what I've heard myself many times as well , unfortunately it's a big lie ! I've tried it and done it myself, so I know what I'm talking about.
ItchyTurd wrote:
A Russian and a Ukrainian talking. Keep it up guys.
*im actually croatian
Mar 7, 2022
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ESP-918 wrote:
I don't understand people who are saying , that Lichess blitz ratings are harder to achieve, it must be a joke !
No matter what level you are it's so much easier to achieve higher ( artificially inflated) blitz rating on Lichess, then Chess.com .
I won so many games just by keeping a knight left , even tho I run out of time , I still won, where's on chess.com it would be a draw and no points given for a win !
I have a much higher rating on lichess than here, so I understand some of this. I do like playing on lichess, however. And it's maybe because a lot of players here on chess.com play very aggressive chess that's full of traps, while a lot of my games on lichess are quieter. I do like quieter games more, but this site is helping me learn how to play better defense. It's only when I get to the point of successfully defending against sharp/hustle play that I'll consider myself a really good chess player 
Lichess is about 370-400 points higher than chess.com. To me, its due to their rating formula using a higher initial rating than chess.com. They have a superiority complex where they think people will face more similar skill if they raise all the ratings up with their glicko-2 rating system (chess.com apparently uses a glicko-1 rating system), but the ratings look just too high there.
Lichess' rating page says "Lichess ratings start at 1500... The Lichess ratings can often be higher than ratings from other systems that start at 1200, such as FIDE or chess.com."
goldenbeer wrote:
Above 2300 they are very similar, I’m 2300 in both at the moment, sometimes in lichess I get to 2400 (without a very big problem) but in chesscom 2400 is a bit tougher in general but day by day pools are different.
No , not similar at all ! I went 2400+ on lichess and could continue go up , but lost interest because of inconsistency. Some players hang a rook and some just resign. Another thing I don't see any fighting spirit in endgame like on chess.com
2400+ on chess.com is so much harder and people fight till the end.!
I think it's harder on chess.com, because so many winning positions are DRAWN, where's on Lichess you get a win.
Also more title players on chess.com .
Anyway for me to get better I prefer chess.com stronger and more challenging competition.
I got disappointed in Lichess, especially when people were saying it's harder the higher you go.
Mar 8, 2022
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ESP-918 wrote:
I don't understand people who are saying , that Lichess blitz ratings are harder to achieve, it must be a joke !
Your peak blitz ratings on chess.com and lichess are only 20 points apart, that's not a big difference. Very consistent with this rating comparison: https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/
@ESP-918 - chess.com: 2401. Lichess: 2421
@Goldenbeer - chess.com: 2407. Lichess: 2424
@Kowarenai - chess.com: 2433. Lichess: 2432
Overall, at the 2400 level, lichess ratings are rougly the same as chess.com. At about 2500 is when lichess ratings become harder to achieve.
Mar 8, 2022
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I guess I am the exception to this though, my peak is only 2365 here, but on lichess I am 2472, soon to break 2500. I don't play blitz here seriously though, and haven't played a rated game in something like 6 weeks. I think I would be well over 2450 blitz if I started playing again and took the games as seriously as I do on lichess.
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
ESP-918 wrote:
I don't understand people who are saying , that Lichess blitz ratings are harder to achieve, it must be a joke !
Your peak blitz ratings on chess.com and lichess are only 20 points apart, that's not a big difference. Very consistent with this rating comparison: https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/
@ESP-918 - chess.com: 2401. Lichess: 2421
@Goldenbeer - chess.com: 2407. Lichess: 2424
@Kowarenai - chess.com: 2433. Lichess: 2432
Overall, at the 2400 level, lichess ratings are rougly the same as chess.com. At about 2500 is when lichess ratings become harder to achieve.
You missing a point rating might be similar bUT time, energy, stress, skills etc ... to reach them sooooo much harder on chess.com.
One very simple example I won AT LEAST two games on Lichess JUST having a knight left!!!! Where's on chess.com I would've gotten a draw and no points at all or some like 1 or 2 .
Steven-ODonoghue wrote:
I guess I am the exception to this though, my peak is only 2365 here, but on lichess I am 2472, soon to break 2500. I don't play blitz here seriously though, and haven't played a rated game in something like 6 weeks. I think I would be well over 2450 blitz if I started playing again and took the games as seriously as I do on lichess.
For me it's opposite from you.
I'm taking it serious on chess.com and barely can achieve 2400+ rating , where's on Lichess I was never serious but then tried it for like couple of days and got 2400+ rating without a sweat, it was easy work , especially as I mentioned before few wins with just knight left.
Try it for yourself, just try reaching 2400 mark in here , let alone 2450 you will feel the difference.
goldenbeer wrote:
Fair that lichess is easier in general, but not too easy. Lichess pool changes day by day, one day is easy one day is hard, once i was thinking in a few days I’ll reach 2500 (I was 2420), I dropped even below 2300. E.g. today it was tougher than previous days.
In both sites there are many bot players, in lichess number of bots is just more, they are examining something, this is why you see more hanging pieces there, or less opening prep in lichess (you can literally play arbitrary opening that you invented just now).
In both sites there are many bot players, in lichess number of bots is just more, they are examining something, this is why you see more hanging pieces there, or less opening prep in lichess (you can literally play arbitrary opening that you invented just now).
I also noticed, that pretty much no one or its very rare talk during a game like trash talk , where's here on chess.com soon much trash talk even in 3|0 min games. Do you have similar experience?
i am glad you used my streamer account and not main account, i am burnt from liga lol
i agree
Lichess is good for analysis and study purpose..chess.com is the platform to play tournaments seriously not for fun
Jun 25, 2022
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Yes, lichess is so much better that it is biggest chess site in the world, with more members and more games being played than any of its inferior competitors, and are so self assured that they don’t feel any need to promote themselves in the forums of those lesser web sites at all. Ever.
Jun 25, 2022
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Yes, lichess is so superior that its advocates don’t feel any need to try and explain their superiority on any other web sites, because there aren’t any web sites that are more popular or bigger then them.
Betamax was ‘better’ than VHS as well, btw
Betamax was ‘better’ than VHS as well, btw
David wrote:
Yes, lichess is so much better that it is biggest chess site in the world, with more members and more games being played than any of its inferior competitors, and are so self assured that they don’t feel any need to promote themselves in the forums of those lesser web sites at all. Ever.
And
Yes, lichess is so superior that its advocates don’t feel any need to try and explain their superiority on any other web sites, because there aren’t any web sites that are more popular or bigger then them. Betamax was ‘better’ than VHS as well, btw
Facts , and we know which site you are talking about
I don't understand people who are saying , that Lichess blitz ratings are harder to achieve, it must be a joke !
No matter what level you are it's so much easier to achieve higher ( artificially inflated) blitz rating on Lichess, then Chess.com .
I won so many games just by keeping a knight left , even tho I run out of time , I still won, where's on chess.com it would be a draw and no points given for a win !