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TheRussianPatzer

Honestly I don't like Mato Jelic. He doesn't go into depth about why certain moves were played, what plans are available, and what alternatives the players had. He basically just says "white could have gone Nd2, but instead he went Nc3," There should be explanations for why certain moves were picked over others by the players, not just a brief mentioning that other lines exist. That's why his videos tend to be short: they really don't have much substance in them. I do, however, like his accent and choice of games.

TheRussianPatzer

Btw the video you posted was hilarious XD

TetsuoShima
TheRussianPatzer wrote:

Honestly I don't like Mato Jelic. He doesn't go into depth about why certain moves were played, what plans are available, and what alternatives the players had. He basically just says "white could have gone Nd2, but instead he went Nc3," There should be explanations for why certain moves were picked over others by the players, not just a brief mentioning that other lines exist. That's why his videos tend to be short: they really don't have much substance in them. I do, however, like his accent and choice of games.

See thats the entire point, he chooses the games so good you learn automatically even without instruction. I mean its better then the other youtube videos were you have instructions but you dont learn. I mean it doesnt work for all games that way, but for the older ones you improve a lot by watching him, at least i did. Also he seems to pick just the right speed to follow the game, not to slow and not to fast.

StevieBlues

You sound like a vampire

TheRussianPatzer
TetsuoShima wrote:
TheRussianPatzer wrote:

Honestly I don't like Mato Jelic. He doesn't go into depth about why certain moves were played, what plans are available, and what alternatives the players had. He basically just says "white could have gone Nd2, but instead he went Nc3," There should be explanations for why certain moves were picked over others by the players, not just a brief mentioning that other lines exist. That's why his videos tend to be short: they really don't have much substance in them. I do, however, like his accent and choice of games.

See thats the entire point, he chooses the games so good you learn automatically even without instruction. I mean its better then the other youtube videos were you have instructions but you dont learn. I mean it doesnt work for all games that way, but for the older ones you improve a lot by watching him, at least i did. Also he seems to pick just the right speed to follow the game, not to slow and not to fast.

But in that case, why not just look over master games yourself? His commentary has little substance, so I feel he's really just flipping through the moves and occasionally saying that an alternative was available but gives no detail about it. I'm actually surprised by how many people like him. I mean, it ultimately comes down to personal preference, but I watch chess videos to benefit from the commentator's insight, not have somebody flip through the game and make vague comments about it.

losingmove

Mato is the best

Great homage by the way

netzach

He's not supposed to be teaching you chess patzer!

Is only there to present world-class games mostly:)

conejiux

That's not his voice, I know Mato's voice verrry well, but the video is a gas! verrry funny...

Chessperson07

To: TheRussianPatzer  

You don't know what are you talking about. Mato's chess lectures are the best on YouTube.

conejiux

I'm a Mato's fan.

9thEagle

But in that case, why not just look over master games yourself?

Well, you could. But he presents such nice games that you might not find on your own. He also provides some tactical guidance that lower rated players wouldn't be able to answer for themselves. His videos are short and entertaining.

josipovde
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josipovde
TheRussianPatzer wrote:

Honestly I don't like Mato Jelic. He doesn't go into depth about why certain moves were played, what plans are available, and what alternatives the players had. He basically just says "white could have gone Nd2, but instead he went Nc3," There should be explanations for why certain moves were picked over others by the players, not just a brief mentioning that other lines exist. That's why his videos tend to be short: they really don't have much substance in them. I do, however, like his accent and choice of games.

Are you serious! What a stupid comment. If you want more depth go read a book. If you think you can do better make your own video instead of complaining. You shouldn't  be watching this because it's only made for intelligent people. Tongue Out

TheRussianPatzer

Hahaha look at the self rightous and venomous responses I get from these people for stating my opinion. You guys are like a cult. None of you was able to address a single point of mine (and by the way josipovde, I do make my own videos), other than the fact that Mato chooses nice games (which I stated myself as a positive aspect of Mato). If I want to go in depth I COULD read a book, but many youtubers have successfully given the same experience on youtube. I see no reason why I can't expect in depth videos on youtube, since channels like chessexplained, ymchessmaster, valeri lilov, chessnetwork, and kingscrusher offer wonderful in depth videos. And for everyone who will say "then just watch them," I do, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize Mato's channel. I understand that some people just like him: it's a matter of preference. But I'm beginning to realize it's some sort of obsession by seeing the ridiculous responses to my comment.

TitanCG

Saying "his analysis has little substance" constitutes an attack. Perhaps you should be more careful with your choice of words.

benedictus

Nc6 ATTACKING HIS OWN PAWN ON E7!

I died.

pinggo

Mato picks miniatures that have flashy sacrifices. He goes over the games quickly without much explanations, but stops at some points and presents flashy tactics. It is lot easier to solve a chess problem when you know there exists a solution.  His videos are certainly helpful, but not by much. He neglects or ignores all other aspects of the game.

pinggo

Saying "his analysis has little substance" constitutes an attack. Perhaps you should be more careful with your choice of words.


No its not. It is what it is.

netzach

If you are unable to understand what is going on by looking at a chess-board then no video will help much.

losingmove

Hi....I'm Mato...and what would YOU do? Goodbye for now...and good luck with your chess.