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Most Proficient King's Indian Player?
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Isaac Boleslavsky, and David Bronstein. Today it would have to be Nakamura.
A few other very good Kings Indian Defence players include:
- Garry Kasparov
- Bobby Fischer
- Badur Jobava
- Magnus Carlsen used it a few times in his younger years of chess which were entertaining to see.
You also might want to see some of the very strong white side players who played against the KID.
It can help you figure out how they tryed to crush the KID. Which in turn will help you figure out why some of the theory changes depending on what variation is played.
For games on the white side you need to look up players such as:
- Tigran Petrosian
- Friedrich Samisch
- Svetozar Gligoric
Some Modern GM's to look at today are:
- Vishy Anand
- Vladimir kramnik
- Varuzhan Akobian
- Yuri Averbakh
- Anish Giri
Yeah that should get you started.
Some of them do not have huge plays list. However, Even the few they do have are very interesting nonetheless.
Some of them pioneered their own variations and others played the variation very interestingly.
Sometimes when you search to fall in love with a line you can not help but to fall in love with some of the lines played against you.
It will help figure out what to do if you see them from both sides I believe.
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
A few other very good Kings Indian Defence players include:
Garry Kasparov Bobby Fischer Badur Jobava Magnus Carlsen used it a few times in his younger years of chess which were entertaining to see.
You also might want to see some of the very strong white side players who played against the KID.
It can help you figure out how they tryed to crush the KID. Which in turn will help you figure out why some of the theory changes depending on what variation is played.
For games on the white side you need to look up players such as:
Tigran Petrosian Friedrich Samisch Svetozar GligoricSome Modern GM's to look at today are:
Vishy Anand Vladimir kramnik Varuzhan Akobian Yuri Averbakh Anish Giri
Yeah that should get you started.
Some of them do not have huge plays list. However, Even the few they do have are very interesting nonetheless.
Some of them pioneered their own variations and others played the variation very interestingly.
Sometimes when you search to fall in love with a line you can not help but to fall in love with some of the lines played against you.
It will help figure out what to do if you see them from both sides I believe.
Most Proficient King's Indian Player...Not good players, and not players that have played it a few times in thee younger years. Proficient players is what he is asking about.
Teimour Radjabov is commonly associated with the revival of the KID.
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
A few other very good Kings Indian Defence players include:
Garry Kasparov Bobby Fischer Badur Jobava Magnus Carlsen used it a few times in his younger years of chess which were entertaining to see.
You also might want to see some of the very strong white side players who played against the KID.
It can help you figure out how they tryed to crush the KID. Which in turn will help you figure out why some of the theory changes depending on what variation is played.
For games on the white side you need to look up players such as:
Tigran Petrosian Friedrich Samisch Svetozar GligoricSome Modern GM's to look at today are:
Vishy Anand Vladimir kramnik Varuzhan Akobian Yuri Averbakh Anish Giri
Yeah that should get you started.
Some of them do not have huge plays list. However, Even the few they do have are very interesting nonetheless.
Some of them pioneered their own variations and others played the variation very interestingly.
Sometimes when you search to fall in love with a line you can not help but to fall in love with some of the lines played against you.
It will help figure out what to do if you see them from both sides I believe.
Great list! Like Diakonia said, not quite what I was asking, but very useful nonetheless, thanks.
ForeverHoldYourPiece wrote:
In your opinion, among all the unfathomably strong players throughout history, who played the King's Indian Defence the best?
Check out Bronsteins book on Zurich 1953, a great many games on the Kings Indian.
Diakonia wrote:
Most Proficient King's Indian Player...Not good players, and not players that have played it a few times in thee younger years. Proficient players is what he is asking about.
Definition of Proficient -
- competent or skilled in doing or using something.
Definition of Good -
- to be desired or approved of.
- having the qualities required for a particular role.
Please do not comment to me.
You have nothing of value to add to my post.
My original statement stands true.
If you do not believe so (I will say it to you nicely)
It is because you are a moron.
@ OP I forgot about Teimour Radjabov.
However, Someone esle mentioned him which is great.
He uses it exclusively I believe.
Oh, here we go again...
Kasparov played it a bit. http://www.amazon.com/Kasparov-Kings-Indian-Batsford-Library/dp/080502946X
Leonid Stein had some brilliant games with the system.
gufeld
It all starts w/ GELLER...Botvinnik himself acknowledges this salient point many many times through the years. In fact the theoretical bookends are GELLER and KASPAROV w/ notable games and advancements theoretically made by David Bronstein Issac Boleslavsky and Bobby Fischer and even Leonid Stein.
Kasparov and Geller are the bookends
Diakonia wrote:
ForeverHoldYourPiece wrote:
In your opinion, among all the unfathomably strong players throughout history, who played the King's Indian Defence the best?
Check out Bronsteins book on Zurich 1953, a great many games on the Kings Indian.
Also, a book well worth reading on its own merits, KID aside.
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Borderline funny how these kids say Kasparov, Anand or even worse, ComputMura.
Have some respect for your superiors. Yeah, the Soviets. Who got it all started I ask you. Correct. David Ionovich Bronstein. A true man. Why you may ask? Because unlike all the bunch of sissies you guys mentioned HE ATE sawdust on the Stalingrad Siege and NEVER fell BACK. Just as order 227 states it.
I still have an original copy of his KID book.
Im old so, "63" to be precise, I was THERE when this opening was in full swing so to speak. Tal, Bronstein, Fischer, and later Kasparov were some of the players who really understood it properly, or should I rather say the players whose "style" lent itself to the application of this openings complexity.
However, it was "GELLER" who was the Patriarch of this opening. In fact, none other than the "Patriarch of modern chess himself "BOTVINNIK who was quoted as thus "Before GELLER we did NOT understand the Kings Indian defense"
I love those old school players, they are like Renascence painters and I am speaking DIRECTLY of the Soviet School that to my mind begins w/ Botvinnik.......While Chigorin and Alekhine may be considered by these same Russians to be the fathers of this school, it all really begins with BOTVINNIK, this movement that we commonly associate w/ the Soviet School Of Chess, a school that all these many years later still as the abundant amount of pupils, whether they even know it or not !.......LOL
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In your opinion, among all the unfathomably strong players throughout history, who played the King's Indian Defence the best?