Different ratings are like different currencies.
It's like saying someone is richer than you because you have 50 USD and they have 100 JPY... but in reality 50 USD > 100 JPY.
I'm not saying this to simplify things or make you feel better or something... this is how ratings work. 1500 on one website in one time control may be worse than 1000 on a different website and time control.
450 blitz vs 450 blitz is an equal matchup. It doesn't matter what their other ratings are.
Different ratings are like different currencies.
It's like saying someone is richer than you because you have 50 USD and they have 100 JPY... but in reality 50 USD > 100 JPY.
I'm not saying this to simplify things or make you feel better or something... this is how ratings work. 1500 on one website in one time control may be worse than 1000 on a different website and time control.
450 blitz vs 450 blitz is an equal matchup. It doesn't matter what their other ratings are.
I can understand the general idea of different modes are different skill sets. But someone at 450 is still really learning about the game - someone who is 850 in other modes has a pretty solid understanding of the game / opening sequences etc.
I would say your statement is more true if someone is 1000 in a mode, vs 1200 in another mode - but when you match a 450 with a 900 the skill gap even though the game modes are different is still a very large difference.
I can understand the general idea of different modes are different skill sets. But someone at 450 is still really learning about the game - someone who is 850 in other modes has a pretty solid understanding of the game / opening sequences etc.
I would say your statement is more true if someone is 1000 in a mode, vs 1200 in another mode - but when you match a 450 with a 900 the skill gap even though the game modes are different is still a very large difference.
I would say your statement is more true if someone is 1000 in a mode, vs 1200 in another mode - but when you match a 450 with a 900 the skill gap even though the game modes are different is still a very large difference.
It's an interesting idea.
I guess it's true that at lower ratings there can be wildly different skillsets for the same rating.
Next Lose to a 952 in Rapid.... This is a problem
Next Lose to a 952 in Rapid.... This is a problem
It was a blitz game and they were rated the same as you.
The only way to get the same rating is the perform on the same level... and equal rating means the game is a coinflip (50% win and 50% loss). So losing is not a problem, it happens naturally.
Next Lose to a 952 in Rapid.... This is a problem
It was a blitz game and they were rated the same as you.
The only way to get the same rating is the perform on the same level... and equal rating means the game is a coinflip (50% win and 50% loss). So losing is not a problem, it happens naturally.
This is like saying someone who has never skated on ice before, and someone who has figure skated for years... Now you ask them to play hockey and wonder which person is going to be better.
They both have never played hockey before so it should be fair and even.
The reality is the person who is 900 in Rapid is bringing over many skills to Blitz and shouldnt be treated the same and matched up a bit more accordingly. A 450 Blitz should NEVER match a 950 Rapid in game, 500 Elo difference is massive and is the different between great players and world champions.
If that opponent were a lot better than 450 in blitz, then they'd be rated higher than 450 in blitz.
Ratings increase and decrease with wins and losses... and that's the only way they change. So that opponent wins and loses against the same opponents you do... so they're not massively better.
Based on what I've seen after working with alot of weaker players, 450 blitz and ~800 rapid is roughly to be expected and doesn't necessarily mean that the player is better at rapid than blitz.
At the sub-1000 level blitz ratings just tend to be lower, and rapid ratings tend to be much higher.
Next Lose to a 952 in Rapid.... This is a problem
It was a blitz game and they were rated the same as you.
The only way to get the same rating is the perform on the same level... and equal rating means the game is a coinflip (50% win and 50% loss). So losing is not a problem, it happens naturally.
This is like saying someone who has never skated on ice before, and someone who has figure skated for years... Now you ask them to play hockey and wonder which person is going to be better.
They both have never played hockey before so it should be fair and even.
The reality is the person who is 900 in Rapid is bringing over many skills to Blitz and shouldnt be treated the same and matched up a bit more accordingly. A 450 Blitz should NEVER match a 950 Rapid in game, 500 Elo difference is massive and is the different between great players and world champions.
This analogy falls through since rating is an indicator of past performance. If the new player and the ice skater player played some matches against other people of X skill in hockey and came out with similar results, we can conclude a match between the new player and the ice skater, if they play enough matches, would be close to 50-50.
The problem I am running into is, I am a low rated player 450 area, running into people who are 450 in 3 minute chess... but 750 in 10 minute chess.
I just checked your profile and it turns out you haven't played a rated rapid game against a similarly skilled opponent in almost 2 years.
If you played 100 games in the 10 minute pool right now and tried hard to win every game then you would also be 750 rapid, just like your blitz peers.
A 300 point gap between blitz and rapid is totally typical.
The problem I am running into is, I am a low rated player 450 area, running into people who are 450 in 3 minute chess... but 750 in 10 minute chess.
I just checked your profile and it turns out you haven't played a rated rapid game against a similarly skilled opponent in almost 2 years. If you played 100 games in the 10 minute pool right now and tried hard to win every game then you would also be 750, just like your opponents.
A 300 point gap between blitz and rapid is totally typical.
Publicly available stats strike again!
I wish the Elo Rating / Matchmaking made a bit more sense in terms of overall chess rating.
I usually just play 3 minute chess - I like the fast pace - and its easy to sneak in some games here and there throughout the day. The problem I am running into is, I am a low rated player 450 area, running into people who are 450 in 3 minute chess... but 750 in 10 minute chess.
I wish the matchmaking would address this better.
Recent Losses
1-1000 Rapid - 650 Bullet
2 - 570 Bullet so not terrible matchmaking
3 -825 Rapid
4- 750 Rapid
5- 580 Rapid / 760 in Live 960 ( not sure what that one is )
6 - 771 highest rating as of 2 months ago
7 - 949 Rapid
8- DRAW - 820 Rapid
9 - DRAW - 815 Rapid
That is as far down the chain as I can see on my profile - my last 7 losses have all come to players ( minus that one match ) of players who are 300+ elo ahead of me in 10 minute chess.
My 2 Draws were players 400ish Elo ahead of me in 10 minute chess
My last 20 Games I am 11-7-2 - and all 7 of my losses are to players who have a higher "overall" rating then I do even though their blitz rating is similar. and both of my Draws are to players with much higher overall rating then myself.
So the only games I didn't outright win, were all players with a Massive Elo boost in other areas of chess.
I know that is a small sample size but it has been going on a lot recently and finally to a point were I wanted to make note of it.
I feel like my knowledge is improving but since I am stuck running into 800 elo players when I am 450 it hurts my movement.