my first blindfold game

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webtuto

Hey everyone
I found out that my calculations and visualisation of the final position is never that clear in my head , I always miss a pawn or something , so I decided that blindfold chess might help me get better in calculation without looking at the pieces , i asked my roomate (amateur chess player) , very low rated , 
 

I know i made blunders and miss lot of chances but at the end i was VERY VERY tired and couldnt see things very clear like in the begining and middle game so i decided not to go hunting his king and just to play safe and promote my pawns

ps : this is the first time i make a diagram , so i might of made some mistakes there

what do you think ?

MSC157

You both played blindfolded? 

Just train it and train. My first blindfold was awkard, but now I can play 2 blindfolded games at once (well, I lose both of them but at least I know what barely I'm doing).

webtuto

no he was looking at the board , 

and do you think that blindfold chess really help with calculation and visualisation of the final position?

MSC157

It should. After a month I believe-

JamesColeman

No. It might allow someone to showcase an ability that already they already possess but I think it has little or no value as a training method.

EcoCodeG02
webtuto wrote:

no he was looking at the board , 

and do you think that blindfold chess really help with calculation and visualisation of the final position?

Of course blindfold will help your visualization ability, it's only common sense, despite what ANYBODY says.

JamesColeman

Why would it though? I can appreciate the value of solving exercises without moving pieces etc, pushing yourself to calculate, but stumbling through a pretty nonsensical and blunder-filled "blindfold" game? Where on earth is the value in that?

An analogy would be that you don't become a good blitz player by playing a lot of blitz.

JamesColeman
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JamesColeman

Really? You could list a thousand GMs that said that and quote them? Or 100? Or ten ? The guy simply asked for an opinion - I was giving him one.

Stormstout

I have to agree with JamesColeman, as your chess improves you will get better in blindfold but improving chess through blindfold can't be very efficient.

JamesColeman

Of course all GMs would be very decent at blindfold. No question about that at all. However I would say their blindfold skills are a by-product of their already well honed chess ability. However I simply do not think that blindfold play as a training exercise in itself is all that useful, particularly by very weak players playing against even weaker players.

If it was reading a book without a board, forcing yourself to calculate without moving pieces, then yeah, fine.

But again it's purely my opinion. Nothing more ;)

DG8

I don't see any value in playing blindfold. To me, brains should be involved in games and not the reflexes. You have to think if you're a beginner and even more so as you're getting better.

Arraskrahe
melvernboy wrote:
JamesColeman wrote:

Of course all GMs would be very decent at blindfold. No question about that at all. However I would say their blindfold skills are a by-product of their already well honed chess ability. However I simply do not think that blindfold play as a training exercise in itself is all that useful, particularly by very weak players playing against even weaker players.

If it was reading a book without a board, forcing yourself to calculate without moving pieces, then yeah, fine.

But again it's purely my opinion. Nothing more ;)

So tell me your training regime to be able to see 10 moves ahead.

It seems you are convinced that playing blindfolded chess is as same as training calculation ... while it is obvious, that one must calculate in a blindfolded game, I believe that just "any calculation and board visualisation" doesn't count as effective training. Yes, blindfolded chess gives you chess experience just as playing regular chess, but training in my opinion is should me more concerned with analyzing positions and variations (calculating) without limiting yourself in any way - such as not seeing the board or playing with a clock. As of the pros of blindfolded, of course - similarly to blitz - it might help you to train to keep concentrating. I remember reading, that Capablanca thought of blindfolded chess as of a circus trick or charlatanism, also that the strain might damage the mind - tho probably amateur blindfolded games are not too dangeorus since there isn't too much thinking involved.

warrior689

Really :) r u sure. I'd say that you r so thorough with your friends openings that it is easy no matter what. Heres my story. Play a blindfold game with my coach. takes me 1 hr to finish the game, and have a bad headache. repeat this over a few months. No improvement. Board analysis. later my tournament (FIDE OTB) points increase by 1.5 from last years score.

EcoCodeG02
JamesColeman wrote:

Why would it though? I can appreciate the value of solving exercises without moving pieces etc, pushing yourself to calculate, but stumbling through a pretty nonsensical and blunder-filled "blindfold" game? Where on earth is the value in that?

 

An analogy would be that you don't become a good blitz player by playing a lot of blitz.

I guess the key is to "not stumble through".  If you don't notice yourself getting better at it, I guess give it up.  But if like me you occasionally uncork some nice sacrificial attacks (once I sacrificed a rook in a blindfold game which led to a forced win, but I actually had something simpler) or get to where you can play into a long endgame (I had a R+P ending go 70+ moves if I recall), then it's probably benefiting you.

varelse1

I tried a blindfold game once, about 26 years ago.

Lasted about 3 hours. I won, but I felt like I got my butt kicked.