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thegreat_patzer

 if he is trolling, in his game he is cheating.

 

playing stupid moves to deliberately low rating is called "sandbagging" and is against the rulez

ChePlaSsYer

You just lost your left nut, sorry man.

thegreat_patzer

OMG everyone is posting SO fast.  wow!

you all made like a whole page just in the time it took to report him.

 

and looking back. sad.png  it didn't even need to- like a zillion people already have.

 

will this rockin thread be locked?

whatcha think???

ArgoNavis
lukethomas04 wrote:

hope you feel proud of yourselves I can just create a new account cut off one head two more shall take its place BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hail Hydra

Really? You're not even making an effort. I will give you a second chance for your farewell comment. "Bwahaha" has gone out of fashion. Be more original next time.

lukethomas04

I am trolling in 10 minute games but that's different from cheating 

ChePlaSsYer

Mods, do not lock it, we are having fun with Tommy.

ChePlaSsYer

Luke, explain your case please, formulate on it.

thegreat_patzer

yes, good players have bad days.

and there is a fine line to playing drunk (for example), and sandbagging.

 

but 500/ 1900??  just too much.  an strong expert (or a little better) might very well have a 1900.  they are NOT going to be 500 in blitz or bullet.

what  is TOO much will be up to chess.com.

 

this whole convo is forbidden.  I sense a future lock.

lukethomas04

bye going to play cod now where i can trool the famas nerds

GodsPawn2016
lukethomas04 wrote:

bye going to play cod now where i can trool the famas nerds

Thats the second "bye"

OneThousandEightHundred18
Hold the phone people. OP has made some really dumb decisions but ultimately he/she seems like a young kid who didn't fully understand the consequences. Some of you are being slightly sadistic towards his/her punishment, seemingly getting enjoyment from all of this...

Let's look at two ways this could be handled:
1) OP gets perma banned, loses diamond membership. He is bummed out. Maybe he gets angry at chess.com. Maybe he comes back under a new name and cheats just to take out some frustration and revenge on this site. OP learns he is not welcome because he broke some rules and thus learns he "is" an outcast rule breaker - it becomes an identity.

2) OP is warned. Something like, "We know you cheated against multiple players, but we're giving you a second chance because you seem capable of stopping your rule-breaking, and your membership demonstrates that you are here for chess and not just to cause problems. We take cheating very seriously because it ruins the game experience for everyone. We will be resetting your ratings and monitoring your games more closely for a set period of time and we will have ZERO tolerance for any additional cheating."
OP then gets too scared to ever cheat again and is grateful towards the fact he was allowed to keep his membership, and he learns to respect the site for giving him another chance. OP learns we all make mistakes but the important thing is to learn and correct the mistakes instead of repeating them in the future.


Which one of the above encourages a person to be more capable of fitting into decent society in the future?

Especially if this is a kid, how do you want this person to feel about the world and himself?
urk
I don't know what to say about this crap.
Looking forward to seeing his page shut and locked.
OneThousandEightHundred18
Basically OP is a little p***k right now but outing him and attacking him... He's gonna only get worse. This is how criminals are formed.

Being sadistic towards a kid who needs to check his ego - it's not helping anyone.
thegreat_patzer

well, this thread is so FLAMING forbidden I can't stand it.

 

as for the whole we ought to be nice to him to ensure he repents/improves.

sorry bud. err 1818.... I don't buy it.  he came in here to brag and he had been flagrantly cheating.   thats an obnoxious  punk attitude.  Not the guy who is going to go home, feel very sorry about what he did.

 

I don't get why he invested $100 just to cheat.  but happily it is Out of our hands.  chess.com HAS to move against cheaters.

cheating, by definition is the end of their whole business.

 

basically if we all thought we would get engines against us-- nobody would play chess here. and the whole site would fold like a pack of cards

 

this isn't a hypothetical situation. it Happened!  yahoo didn't police itself and the whole chess scene over their dwindled... 

 

So if he talks tough, brags and attacks everyone that says anything to him.  we can only say wow, loser- so tough, and totally going to lose $100.

perhaps if he thinks about he can get over himself, and try to save the money. 

 

but talking to him like soothing a crying baby.  thats not how you treat a teenager- tough love!  and thats for someone that actually loves him. 

 

ChePlaSsYer

Lets keep attacking the kid, hopefully when he comes out of the computer with a mental breakdown their parents will know not to let their little living punishment touch the computer.

urk
Do you think cheats should have their membership fees returned to them?
I don't.

The dirtbags commit fraud against the site and basically theft against their opponents.
CookedQueen

Some people never get it, considering a possible refund after breaking obvious rules. WoW

sameez1

To cheat for money or some prize at least makes sense.What does a cheat get on chess.com? 

LouStule
sameez1 wrote:

To cheat for money or some prize at least makes sense.What does a cheat get on chess.com? 

There have been doctoral theisi written about this question.

OneThousandEightHundred18
I believe in SOME cases, ONE second chance should be given. No more than that. I think this is one of those cases. Tough LOVE is being strict about a ZERO tolerance for continued abuse. Tough HATE is about enjoying seeing "bad" people being punished without a chance to correct mistakes. You are sadistic if you enjoy seeing punishment, even if the punishment is given to someone "bad."

Ask yourself why this kid is cheating in the first place? He probably has low self-esteem and compensates for it by acting the way he does - cheating to feel superior, bragging, etc.

You don't fix this type of behavior by outcasting the culprit. You look towards the root of the problem - the kid's emotional problems. You can then choose a path that at least encourages (but does not guarantee) a better attitude and behavior, or you can choose the vengeful path that encourages more of the same bad attitude towards the SELF, which turns into a bad attitude towards OTHERS.

You don't fix hate with more hate.

The OP said something like, "I shouldn't have started this thread."
What does that tell you about the OP? He's beating himself up for what he's done. The taunts and insults from the OP that follow, I believe, are the result of self-hatred, self-pity, an "I've given up trying to fit in because no matter what I do now I'm still hated." You don't encourage that. You show empathy instead. At least try to help this kid towards a better path even if it fails.
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