Mystery Quotes Mikhail Tal
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Anubarak wrote:
You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.
What does mean 2+2=5???
What is all meaning??? anyone know???
It's that strange feeling you get when you look down at your dog and say---"Toto, I dont believe we're in Kansas anymore."
no body knows except for the author'''''''
I believe he means that by complications he can challenge his opponents beliefs about a position, and if he's convinced it will work he can make his opponents doubt.
where 2+2=5
Maybe
where he can't calculate clearly
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Scottrf wrote:
I believe he means that by complications he can challenge his opponents beliefs about a position, and if he's convinced it will work he can make his opponents doubt.
+1
One cannot underestimate the psychological power he exercised over opponents w/these ultra-sharp positions. He often made sacs that were, upon later analysis, somewhat unsound, only knowing that "something" was there, but his oppos would figure he had it calculated (not unreasonable) and make poor moves based on both that assumption and that piercing stare of The Wizard.
“Tal was a fearless fighter. Nobody could successfully accomplish so many incorrect maneuvers! He simply smashed his opponents.”
Anubarak wrote:
You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.
What does mean 2+2=5???
What is all meaning??? anyone know???
To me it means ,you have to make them believe everything adds up to the sum that it should, but also for there to be one more thing for them to take into account than they shouldn't otherwise.
I guess if you can make someone believe they are defeated, then they are, even if they actually had the means to win the fight. Chances are many people once rattled by Tal, couldn't think straight enough for 2+2 to only equal 4, that had to be one more thing they missing, that he obviously, confidently sees.
Anubarak wrote:
You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.
What does mean 2+2=5???
What is all meaning??? anyone know???
I take him to mean he wants to bring his opponents to a place where what is considered basic truth for chess is no longer so, but the truth of the position is determined by the person who comes out of the game the winner.
Sep 18, 2012
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http://blog.chess.com/Dozy/the-immovable-object
in this article I think it is explained.
Didn't O'Brian torture Winston to get him to confess 2+2=5, in the book 1984?
Here's a great quote from Tal that you don't see very often. Cross index under: French Defense exchange variation-- the shame!
- Did you ever head for a draw from the very first move? TAL: In all my life, only once. In the 1955 USSR Team Championship Semi-final, playing White against Korchnoi, after the moves 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5, I captured on d5. I was terribly ashamed (
), and from that time I swore: to play for a draw, at any rate with White, is to some degree a crime against chess.
), and from that time I swore: to play for a draw, at any rate with White, is to some degree a crime against chess.FYI Tal was probably playing for draw because Korchnoi was at that time the one player in the world who absolutely dominated him. Which is what the article linked in post #14 is about.
Everyone calls Tal a tactical genius and I suppose he was but I honestly think he really was a strange positional genius -- he was a great calculator no doubt (I mean all World Champs are) but what makes his sacs so magical is that they aren't calculated to the last jot (the way Alekhine's typically are) -- he had this awesome ability to evaluate the attacking chances of a position... I think this quote of Tal's addresses that:
Many sacs don't require concrete calculation at all. It is sufficient to only glance at the arising position to convince us that the sac is correct.
That is also a kind of 2 + 2 = 5... suddenly material isn't worth what it's supposed to be... and Tal can see it.
Of course most of us try to play that kind of sac a couple times, get thrashed and trashed by some overlooked defensive resource and suffer the rest of the way a piece down to dreary defeat vowing to never be so careless and stupid again!
And finally, what a classy guy Tal was, always ready to give credit where it was due and to congratulate a winner. After his first loss to Fischer he acknowleged the youngster's evident brilliance saying: "it is difficult to play against Einstein's Theory" -- hard to know exactly what he meant, but it sure sounds like a compliment to me.
I think Tal was saying of Fischer, with regard to Einstein's theory... you can't defy the dictation of space and time. Fischer drove himself crazy trying to figure out every nook and cranny of them both...Tal usually defeated his opponent, knowing he could never out play the dictation of chess theory, Fischer embodied chess theory with his every chess action.
Dec 10, 2012
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My favorite Tal quote:
"To my misfortune, the idea of a fantastically beautiful win came into my head. I played for it, the situation grew tense, both kings were threatened with mate, and suddenly I discovered that the whole point of my combination lay in the move Bf8-g5(!!!). Since bishops don't move that way, I had to resign." -- The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal. And this was one of the games in his match to earn the title of Soviet Master!
He means that you have to scare the opponentby ultimately showing so much disrespect by playing yourself and not him!
I believe that the deep dark forest he referring is his territory and in this territory he can make the illusion into reality thats why 2+2=5
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