New Chess Point Values!

This is just an idea. So I think the point values of chess pieces are a little off. So what about this. This is just my idea of how I think they should be:

Pawn: 1

Knight: 3

Bishop: 3 1/4

Rook: 6

Queen: 9

King: Infinity.

There are only some minor changes but I believe they are good reason to be changed. Let me know what you think!

Yea since a bishop is stronger than a knight in most positions it deserves those points 

yeah and also the rook should be 6 because it is sooooo powerful

I think Bishop is better in 80% of the positions, however sometimes Knight is better. So I agree maybe 3.2 is good. Rooks should still be 5 in my opinion

Yeah. But rook should be 6 I think. I don’t know if

id rather have a rook or two knights

Assigning values in general is pointless since it’s context what matters.

It’s not linear. One pawn down is 1 but two pawns down is often losing. The bishop *pair* is worth more than 6.

In the middlegame rooks often are worth little because they are often just sitting in a corner. How many middle game mates have you done without a bishop or knight? The vast minority I would think. Rooks only really show their value if you make it to the endgame.

Leela Chess Zero assigns no value at all to pieces. In a somewhat famous game she sacked a bishop to set up a pawn on d6 on move 8. Stockfish thought it was winning for about 15 more moves, but that lonely pawn completely stifled the development a bishop and a rook and they were locked out of the game.

Assigning points and choosing moves based on point values is silly. Good pieces are better than bad pieces, and that’s entirely context dependent.

Honestly I agree. No values can be exact - therefore that’s why sometimes I don’t agree with the standard

There is a very famous game where La Bourdonnais was down material but had three connected black pawns on the 2nd rank. The white queen and rook (value 14) were helpless to stop the mate from three pawns (value 3).

If you are up two pawns, but they are passed and connected, you’re not up two. The eval may have you up 5, 10, or even announce mate.

People like assigning values, but it really can do more harm than good to take these values as written in stone.

GM Yasser Seirawan has a video somewhere out there in the vastness of the internet that really explains the starting point value of the pieces well. The points are based on squares attacked when pieces are properly placed in the opponent's zone. Wish I had kept it somewhere; when I saw it, the reason for the point ratings became very clear and I had never seen it explained so well before (or since).

Of course, as the game progresses and positions change, the value of any piece can be enhanced or diminished based on position. Any well placed active piece is easily worth more than trapped inactive ones.

Thanks for all the help huys

No

Well maybe if you get them just roght

Actually we can play sry